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To: pastorbillrandles

Pastor, I am very interested in learning about this. I have heard Pastor Stephen Davy on the radio preach that to be born “of water” means physical birth, meaning that water is the amniotic fluid. Pastor Davy also said that to be born of “the spirit” refers to the Holy Spirit coming into your heart.

From what I can see, you agree with Pastor Davy’s interpretation for “spirit” but not with his interpretation for “water.”

My question: Are you saying that Ezekiel 36 is a prophesy for the New Covenant and the body of Christ? If not, what do you believe “sprinkle clean water on you” means for us today?

I have learned a lot from your posts.


9 posted on 02/23/2012 6:52:04 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, R. Zacharias, Erwin Lutzer, and others.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Thank you reason. The article explains why I believe "born of water and Spirit" is a reference to something other than natural birth, and water baptism. Ezekiel 36 is similar to Jeremiah 31;

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Both were originally given to Israel, but both apply to the church in the intermediate period.

I will sprinkle clean water on you is Priestly technical terminology , saying I will make you ritually clean again and fit to come before me. Hebrews 10 refers to the same cleansing. The Gospel is the water that washed (Eph 5:26)

11 posted on 02/23/2012 9:49:09 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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