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To: bboop
We worked tooth and nail for Prop 8 here in California. The Mormons gave so much help, made and distributed posters, had phone banks. We worked booths at Farmers’ Markets side by side, got spat upon and slandered side by side.

Yes, and the Mormons also helped with $ & manpower during a similar ballot proposal in CA (year 2000).

I was impressed by both of those.

But one state out of 50 where the Mormons formally came on board only twice is no public campaign by the Church.

In fact, those positive efforts were quickly "balanced" the other way when the Lds church took up homosexual rights in Salt Lake City in 2009:

Mormon church supports Salt Lake City's protections for gay rights and Mormons Back Salt Lake City Gay Rights Laws

What threads like these show all those FREEPERS who keep saying how "aligned" we are with Mormons re: "common values"; yet the Mormon church can be liberal when it wants to...and it's been awfully convenient for that to happen more and more the last few years.

Too many FREEPERS somehow think that Romney's wishy-washiness is "unconnected" to his faith. Well, the Mormon leadership has shown it can be morally wishy-washy whenever it's "convenient."

It was "convenient" for the Mormon church leadership to pass homosexual rights for Salt Lake City 'cause they were coming off of what the MSM regarded "negative" media play re: Prop 8 in CA.

It was "convenient" for their missionary program to support aspects of immigrants being here illegally.

And, at times, it's been "convenient" for daughters of Mormon leaders and others to get abortions -- hence, the numerous "exceptions" Mormons have to their policy on abortion...including the ludicrous one that if the Mormon gods agree to it thru an answer in prayer, it's "A-OK" to dismember your pre-born.

Certainly, it's been "convenient" for them to have a Harry Reid in Congress "watch out" for Mormon church interests. (Hence, why not invite Reid to the BYU campus to speak to all of its students & faculty?)

Historically, it was "convenient" for the Mormon god to change his mind about skin color...even if he didn't change Mormon racist "sacred book" passages depicting open racism. And it was "convenient" for the Mormon church to slowly rid itself of open polygamy because their church was threatened, their menfolk were in jail, and they wanted statehood. Even then, it was "convenient" for their original leader, Joseph Smith, to engage in sex with many women even though his own penned Book of Mormon called polygamy an "abomination."

22 posted on 12/29/2011 3:45:18 PM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)
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To: Colofornian
In fact, those positive efforts were quickly "balanced" the other way when the Lds church took up homosexual rights in Salt Lake City in 2009:

I'm a MORMON ...
 
 
 

http://www.affirmation.org/

72 posted on 12/29/2011 6:33:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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