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1 posted on 12/16/2011 8:12:45 AM PST by Cronos
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My we are busy this morning.

Thank you for pointing out the problems with organizations. And, the Protestants did not seem to learn from the Catholics just how screwed up organizations get. And, of course they set the stage for all of the sexual abuse you have posted, too.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 8:26:56 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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“The message it sends is, ‘we love you as long as you aren’t practicing who you are, as long as you aren’t yourself,” said Dwight McCormick, pastor of Northminster Presbyterian Church in Springfield.

I'm so tired of this propaganda of narcissism. The entire point of a conversion to Christ is to "die to self", and to allow Christ to inhabit one's consciousness and actions. Where has this pastor been?

3 posted on 12/16/2011 8:29:13 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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As more denominations are subverted for the liberal political agenda, ignoring their traditional doctrines, which eventually forces conservatives of faith to leave them, it is noteworthy that the liberals soon realize that the liberal subverters are far less likely to support a church which they have corrupted.

In the media this results in what is called the “dinosaur death watch”, as the public shuns dishonest liberal media in favor of more objective conservative media.

So there needs to be a parallel in religion to note how the arrogant liberal churches fail, compared to the success of the conservative churches more concerned with faith than politics.

And this is profound, not just in the US, but in the world. For example, the very liberal Church of England (Anglican) is dying on the vine, yet the very conservative African Anglican church is growing at an astounding rate.

Likewise, Anglicans in England are seeking Catholicism because they see in it the respect for doctrine and beloved traditional values.

So how will go the Presbyterian churches? At first, the liberals always seem to win, but their victories are ephemeral, because they see churches as just a means for political change, not for spirituality and redemption.

“Dinosaur liberal church death watch?”


7 posted on 12/16/2011 9:13:48 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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