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To: Cronos
I was an Elder in a Presbyterian Church in Nebraska in the 1990s, and I have to say that it grieves me deeply to see what's happened to this, and other Presbyterian Churches. I was chosen to speak for our Church when the subject of allowing homosexuals in the pulpit was being considered. And while most of our membership supported my point of view, it was clear that those few who did not were absolutely livid with me because of my comments on the issue.

I stood before the group and reminded them of the scriptural guidelines regarding homosexuality. Then I said that when a Christian Church deliberately and knowingly adopts guidelines which run directly against the inspired Word of God they cease to be a church, because they openly defy the teachings of their foundational documentation...or more to the point, openly defy God.

That is the point at which they become something which could be better defined as a cult.

Needless to say that this was also the point at which I and my family left the Presbyterian church.

16 posted on 10/28/2011 6:05:07 AM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: RavenATB
the more I see this collapse of our nations Church's due to acceptance of abortion and gay marriage, the more I think that this is the final stage of earlier decisions made

For gay marriage it starts with when we as people accepted easy divorces as a fact of life. Then we accepted "shacking up" to the extent that it is now considered abnormal if you DON'T.

With these two aspects and the almost acceptance of infidelity the value of marriage as not just an agreement but a Sacrament was gone.

People stopped realizing that marriage is a Sacrament with 3 involved -- woman, man and GOD.

So, marriage became a piece of paper, not even a contract (as it can be so easily broken).

And then the welfare state jumped in and marriage didn't even become "necessary" -- women with multiple partners and boys who never became men but became fathers who walked away proliferated

With this degeneration of heterosexual "marriage", why not accept a perversion like "gay marriage"?

24 posted on 10/28/2011 9:04:16 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: RavenATB

Agreed..the one near me is basically universalist ...


30 posted on 10/29/2011 11:45:02 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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