SHOULD CHRISTIANS ASSENT TO MORMON DEMANDS TO SEE THEM AS CHRISTIANS? [Vanity]

OnlyMormon website ^ | October 18, 2011 | Self

[greyfoxx39]

The Romney campaign  and its surrogates, ( including some on FR) are using the comment of a Christian pastor against Rick Perry and anyone else who mentions mormonism. It was done in '08 against Huckabee.

 The issue of why Christians do not see mormonism as Christian is front and center.

There was a comment posted recently here featuring the mormon hymn "Praise to the Man" (Joseph Smith)  and I recalled that while I was a member of the mormon church   singing hymns many time whose subject was NOT God or Christ  Another in particular lauded the pioneer trek across the plains..."Put Your Shoulder to the Wheel". 

Compare the LDS hymbook with that of any Christian congregation’s hymnbook for an awakening regarding who/what is worshipped in mormon services. We find many laudatory “hymns” for Joseph Smith, Zion, Latter-day Saints, etc...
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Mormonism is “self”-centered...not CHRIST-CENTERED!

HYMNS FROM THE LDS HYMNBOOK

Hymns of Praise & Thanksgiving

• 17. Awake, Ye Saints of God, Awake!
• 18. The Voice of God Again is Heard
• 19. We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet
• 20. God of Power, God of Right
• 21. Come, Listen to a Prophet's Voice
• 22. We Listen to a Prophet's Voice
• 23. We Ever Pray for Thee
• 24. God Bless Our Prophet Dear
• 25. Now We'll Sing With One Accord
• 26. Joseph Smith's First Prayer
• 27. Praise to the Man
• 28. Saints, Behold How Great Jehovah
• 29. A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief
• 30. Come, Come, Ye Saints
• 31. O God, Our Help in Ages Past
• 32. The Happy Day at Last Has Come
• 33. Our Mountain Home So Dear
• 34. O Ye Mountains High
• 35. For the Strength of the Hills
• 36. They, the Builders of the Nation
• 37. The Wintry Day, Descending to Its Close
• 38. Come, All Ye Saints of Zion
• 39. O Saints of Zion
• 40. Arise, O Glorious Zion
• 41. Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise
• 42. Hail to the Brightness of Zion's glad Morning!
• 43. Zion Stands with Hills Surrounded
• 44. Beautiful Zion, Built Above
• 45. Lead Me Into Life Eternal
• 46. Glorious Things of Thee Are Spoken
• 47. We Will Sing of Zion
• 48. Glorious Things Are Sung of Zion
• 49. Adam-ondi-Ahman
• 50. Come, Though Glorious Day of Promise
• 51. Sons of Michael, He Approaches
• 52. The Day Dawn is Breaking
• 53. Let Earth's Inhabitants Rejoice
• 54. Behold, the Mountain of the Lord
• 55. Lo, the Mighty God Appearing!
• 56. Softly Beams the Sacred Dawning
• 57. We're Not Ashamed to Own Our Lord
• 58. Come, Ye Children of the Lord
• 59. Come, O Thou King of Kings
• 60. Battle Hymn of the Republic
• 61. Raise Your Voice to the Lord
• 62. All Creatures of Our God and King
• 63. Great King of Heaven
• 64. On This Day of Joy and Gladness
• 65. Come, All ye Saints Who Dwell on Earth
• 66. Rejoice, the Lord Is King!
• 67. Glory to God on High
• 68. A Mighty Fortress Is Our God
• 69. All Glory, Laud, and Honor
• 70. Sing Praise to Him
• 71. With Songs of Praise
• 72. Praise to the Lord, the Almighty
• 73. Praise the Lord with Heart and Voice
• 74. Praise Ye the Lord
• 75. In Hymns of Praise
• 76. God of Our Fathers, We Come unto Thee
• 77. Great Is the Lord
• 78. God of Our Fathers, Whose Almighty Hand
• 79. With All the Power of Heart and Tongue
• 80. God of Our Fathers, Known of Old
• 81. Press Forward, Saints
• 82. For All the Saints
• 83. Guide Us, O Thou Great Jehovah
• 84. Faith of Our Fathers
• 85. How Firm a Foundation
• 86. How Great Thou Art
• 87. God Is Love
• 88. Great God, Attend While Zion Sings
• 89. The Lord is My Light
• 90. From All That Dwell below the Skies
• 91. Father, Thy Children to Thee Now Raise
• 92. For the Beauty of the Earth
• 93. Prayer of Thanksgiving
• 94. Come, Ye Thankful People
• 95. Now Thank We All Our God
• 96. Dearest Children, God is Near You

Hymns for Men

• 319. Ye Elders of Israel
• 320. The Priesthood of Our Lord
• 321. Ye Who Are Called to Labor
• 322. Come, All Ye Sons of God
• 323. Rise Up, O Men of God (KENILWORTH)
• 324. Rise Up, O Men of God (FESTAL SONG)
• 325. See The Mighty Priesthood Gathered
• 326. Come, Come, Ye Saints
• 327. Go, Ye Messengers of Heaven
• 328. An Angel From on High
• 329. Thy Servants Are Prepared
• 330. See, The Mighty Angel Flying
• 331. Oh Say, What Is Truth?
• 332. Come, O Thou Kings of Kings
• 333. High on the Mountain Top
• 334. I Need Thee Every Hour
• 335. Brightly Beams Our Father's Mercy
• 336. School Thy Feelings
• 337. O Home Beloved

[greyfoxx39]

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[greyfoxx39]

Ping

[stuartcr]

Should they even be concerned?

[ShadowAce]

SHOULD CHRISTIANS ASSENT TO MORMON DEMANDS TO SEE THEM AS CHRISTIANS?

If mormons demand to see me as a Christian, I have no problem with that.

[MHGinTN]

LOL

[ducttape45]

No,,,,,,,

next question

[allmendream]

The established Mormon view of Christians is that we are “gentiles” and our Churches are “abominations”, yet they insist that we view them fellow Christians and not “gentiles” in any way shape or form.

But Mormons must be used to cognitive dissonance.

[montag813]

It’s funny that people are so concerned with whether Mitt Romney is a Christian, that they seem to forget that he is not a Conservative.

[aruanan]

SHOULD CHRISTIANS ASSENT TO MORMON DEMANDS TO SEE THEM AS CHRISTIANS? [Vanity]

Probably not any more than to concede that Russellite doctrines on the nature of God and Jesus are Christian.

[Notwithstanding]

SHOULD CHRISTIANS ASSENT TO MORMON DEMANDS TO SEE THEM AS CHRISTIANS?
No.

[colorcountry]

I can remember both at the same time.

[Lurker]

What’s offensive to me is posting thread titles in all capital letters.

[Eva]

There is enough to dislike about Mitt Romney without bringing his religion into it. Discussing the religion of the candidates only serves to discredit the conservative movement in the eyes of the rest of the voters.

It actually gives Mitt Romney an excuse to disregard pressures from the conservative right.

[greyfoxx39]

It’s funny that people are so concerned with whether Mitt Romney is a Christian, that they seem to forget that he is not a Conservative.

How about a source for that information? I am one of the majority of conservatives who are able to multi-task.

[Jeff Head]

Demand? Hardly greyfoxx39. I cannot demand anyone "believe" anything when it comes to matters of faith. If others "demand" such thing, in my own estimation, they err.

I can only state my own witness for Christ and let others decide for themselves.

But only One shall Judge, and He is my Savior, Jesus Christ...who knows the heart and is mighty to save. I gladly leave it in His Just, Merciful, and loving Hands, for His atonement and it alone saves...irrespective of what others my think or believe of me and my own witness.

As for me, IMHO, anyone who believes in Jesus Christ and Him crucified...and who knows that His gospel and the fundamental moral principles He taught are the bedrock foundation of our republic and our Liberty is my ally...even if they naysay my own faith. I will not naysay their faith in Jesus Christ because that collective faith is what will allow us to restore this Republic. We should be allies in this fight, and I do all I can to reach out and work with others accordingly. Anyone who knows my history and my involvement in numerous activities on behalf of liberty knows this is true.

Again, I thank all who have prayed for and joined their faith with my own and that of my family in my recent health crisis with cancer. The prayers of the faithful...a large portion of which are not members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, were effecive and instrumentaal in my life and I humbly thank all who exerted their prayers and faith on my behalf.

Not looking for a quarrel, as you well know, just leaving my own witness.

[Retired Greyhound]

There are a LOT of reasons to vote against Mitt Romney.

His Mormonism is not one of them, for me.

[Colofornian]

The issue of why Christians do not see mormonism as Christian is front and center.

From an identity angle (counterfeit)...
...from an association angle...
...from a belief angle...
...any mainstream Mormon should be able to understand this.

After all, how many mainstream Mormons want the world to associate fundamentalist polygamist Mormons with them?

Note the tremendous arms-length distancing Mainstream Mormons do. Note the "myths" they try to address.

Well, the same thing happens around the world. Christian missionaries work generations in an area to pray to the Holy Spirit that the people groups there become receptive to the Bible-based Christian gospel.

Then, what typically happens? The cults, the Jehovah's Witnesses & the Mormons, swoop into that area, take advantage of the good-will built up by those Christian missionaries...yet the JWs and Lds missionaries don't usually highlight the major distinctives and embarrassing things they have embraced as part of the cultic JW & Mormon "gospel" versions.

[Jeff Head]

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God's speed.

[bigredkitty1]

No.

Next question.

[CodeToad]

That would be like homos demanding they be seen as straight or married.