Posted on 10/15/2011 4:01:59 AM PDT by BlueMoose
The Rev. Robert Jeffress of Dallas is taking some national heat for his comments last weekend about presidential candidate Mitt Romney and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, referring to the LDS Church as a "cult.
(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...
What’s all the fuss? Mormonism is a cult.
When it comes to the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ, I stand with Pastor Jeffress.
Now I’ve never met the Pastor, but I believe the Bible, and the teachings of My Saviour. I don’t choose sides with any denomination, for it is evident that there are true believers in all churches, and there are many unbelievers in ever religious group.
Would you call the words of Jesus Christ an anti-morman, or an anti-Jew, etc. not me.
It seems to me belief and unbelief are two of the most important words in His (Jesus’)teaching.
Allow me to quote the following:
“For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.” (John 3:17)
“He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18)
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:36)
We know the words of the greatest teacher that ever lived was God’s son, whom He sent to be the Saviour of the world for all men (the most inclusive message ever to mankind).
No, Jesus never was willing for any to perish, but He made it clear who was not going to heaven. Unbelievers shall have their part in the lake of fire.(Revelation 21:8)
My point is, there would be no Mormons, not Jehovahs Witnesses, no Roman Catholics, not Baptists, etc. if the people of our nation would read and study the Word of God.”
Actually He taught: “Salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22)
We have become a nation of people that: “Do that which is right in our own eyes”(we have rejected our King, as did Israel) Judges 21:25
Has not most U.S. citizens become like: “Because that when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish hearts were darkened.” (Romans 1:21)
Psalm 9:17 says: “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.”
Proverbs 16:6 says: “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart fron evil.” [every party, every person running for office should desire this promise]
First Corinthians 6:9 makes it clear that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God...”
“Wherewithal (how) shall a young man (or old man;or nation) cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to Thy word. With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from Thy commandments. Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee.” (Psalm 119:9,10 & 011)
Dr. Jeffress told the truth, Mormonism is a cult, pure and simple, and in no way parallels true Christianity.
Yes, we should definitely use Mormon owned Deseret News as an unbiased source.
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This is the major problem with Christianity & all other religious denominations who do not claim to be Christian but still believe in YHVH & Messiah, they think Yah’shua came to rebuke His Father's children and start over entirely with pagans. But is that what Yah’shua really said? Is that why He really came?
Jn 10:3 This is the one the gate-keeper admits, and the sheep hear his voice. He calls his own sheep, each one by name, and leads them out. 4 After taking out all that are his own, he goes on ahead of them; and the sheep follow him because they recognize his voice.[CJB] (In context, Jn 10-11)
Ez 34:12 Just as a shepherd looks after his flock when he finds himself among his scattered sheep, so I will look after my sheep. I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered when it was cloudy and dark.[CJB]
Mt 15:24 He said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Isra’el.”[CJB]
Gen 48:19 But his father refused and said, “I know, my son, I know. He also shall become a people, and he also shall be great; but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his descendants shall become a multitude of nations.” [NKJV]
In this last verse, multitude of nations in Hebrew is “melo ha goyim” which is the exact same Greek spelling used in Rm 11 for “fullness of the gentiles”. Dispersed Israelites living among the gentiles (HO 8:8); (Jer 23:27)-leaders teach them a different name for YHVH; (Gen 49:220 -they are a wealthy people; (Amos 9:9) -they will be sifted from among the gentiles; (Jn 7:35) -dispersed among the Greeks; (Rm 9:24-26, Rm 12:14-15)(Ho 1:10) -they already have the Law (Torah) written on their hearts-(Jer 31:33; Deut 29-30)
So when Yah’shua said that He ONLY came for the lost sheep of Israel, why was that?
Jer 3: 8 I saw that even though backsliding Isra’el had committed adultery, so that I had sent her away and given her a divorce document, unfaithful Y’hudah her sister was not moved to fear - instead she too went and prostituted herself. 9 The ease with which Isra’el prostituted herself defiled the land, as she committed adultery with stones and with logs. 10 Yet in spite of all this, her unfaithful sister Y’hudah has not returned to me wholeheartedly; she only makes a pretense of it,” said ADONAI. 11 Then ADONAI said to me, “Backsliding Isra’el has proved herself more righteous than unfaithful Y’hudah. 12 Go and proclaim these words toward the north: ‘”Return, backsliding Isra’el,” says ADONAI. “I will not frown on you, for I am merciful,” says ADONAI. “I will not bear a grudge forever.[CJB]
Jer 31:32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers on the day I took them by their hand and brought them out of the land of Egypt; because they, for their part, violated my covenant, even though I, for my part, was a husband to them,” says ADONAI.[CJB]
This is why Paul starts out in Rm 7 by saying that he is only speaking to those that know the Law, the Torah, that defines adultery. Paul was specifically referring the law of divorce & now that the husband was dead, they are free from the law of adultery that kept them from re-entering HIS House. They are now free to be married again. This is the real prophesy of the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
But does this just include only physical seed? Absolutely not! And He addressed it straight away upon leaving Egypt when Moses asked about the Egyptians who had joined the exodus.
Ex 12:49 The same teaching is to apply equally to the citizen and to the foreigner living among you.
Nm 15:16 “The same Torah and standard of judgment will apply to both you and the foreigner living with you.”... 29 “no matter whether he is a citizen of Isra’el or a foreigner living with them. You are to have one law”
Throughout the entire Scriptures, YHVH has only made covenants with HIS people, the house if Israel & the house of Judah, who He would eventually call again just "Israel". But should a foreigner (pagan gentile) wish to join in HIS House, they have always been required to keep & follow YHVH’s Torah.
Rm 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against YHVH(God); for it is not subject to the Torah(law) of YHVH(God), nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please YHVH(God).
Through the death & resurrection of Messiah, the Torah Law of adultery that kept the scattered sheep from entering back into the fold was no longer held against them. But YHVH does not force Himself upon anyone, thus the new covenant is not for a new people, it is so that the scattered sheep who had been living outside of it could rejoin the House if they so choose. The foreigner(pagan gentile) has always been welcome to join as long as they accept & abide by the rules of the covenant which is YHVH’s Torah.
Thus, there is a hint of truth in all denominations of all religions, but the vast majority, who claim by saying they believe in Messiah is enough, are highly mislead and living lives that are out of covenant. YHVH’s children are Israel no matter the denominational label man has attached to them. They are a lovely Green Olive Tree, full of good fruit. (Jer 11:16)
Jeremiah 31:31 [ A New Covenant ] “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—[NKJV]
I don't see pagan gentile anywhere in this New Covenant of Messiah. Further more, I have yet to have one clergy or parish member of any denomination under the umbrella of Christianity show me where this "new covenant" for "pagan gentiles only" is wrtten. The entire Scriptures is about bring YHVH's House back into order. In unity. Under One Torah.
One Nation! Under YHVH! With Liberty & Justice for All!
Kinda blows a hole through Christian doctrine that teaches the NT ushered in a new set of covenant laws, banishing Jews to that of the old. The old was never old, it has always been current and if anyone is in covenant for the most part, it is the Jews. At least they still keep Torah for the most part; though they generally practice it via the Talmud(their additions to the Torah) which Yah’shua rebuked when He walked in the flesh. But this is why YHVH did not divorce the house of Judah, even though they had added to Torah, they were atleast preserving the basic integrity of it. Well, that and the covenant YHVH made with David that HE would never divorce the house of Judah.
Does any religion have it right? Absolutely not, not even Judaism, but it is our Jewish brethren(house of Judah)that all denominations of Christianity, Mormonism, Catholicism, et, etc need to take a lesson from lest we find ourselves at that wide gate that leads to destruction.
It's time to start reading His Book starting in the front rather than in the middle lest we entirely miss the lesson/message HE is teaching/sending us.
See post number 4
Amen & Amen! Very well put!
I, personally know I am one of His sheep; He knows me and I know Him. (Thankfully, Her said I know My sheep and they know me, as in Matthew the our Lord told those who told all that they had done: “Depart from Me ye workers of iniquity, I never knew you.”(Matthew 7:21-23)
As true Christians,we can joyfully claim and believe: “To as many as received Him to them gave He power to become the Sons of God.” (John 1:12)
I love Romans 6:23 because it is so clear: “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
[we know wages is something we earn,as we work for it, but a gift is already paid for, it cost the receiver nothing. As said; a gift requires 2 things: a giver, and a receiver.
Isaiah wrote: “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned everyone to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.” (53:6)
Finally, I quote: “For He(God) hath made Him(Jesus)to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we may be made the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Cor. 5:21)
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