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To: markomalley
We have to resist them and call them out when they harm the Church and the Faith. But when we do so, we should check ourselves and self-edit so that what we write and say is not done in hatred, and is not personal.

Further, it is not right to wish that they leave the Church because it is the same as wishing their eternal damnation. Our desire is to reform them in the Church.

15 posted on 08/17/2011 5:52:15 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
Very well put. Our wish is (and should be) to save souls, ours included as well as theirs, not that people should lose them. The idea, as another I admire once expressed it, is to get as many souls into heaven as possible. Archbishop Sheen once famously said that the best way to get to heaven was to help another get there. Better that than to let them win by changing the Church. Because, although contrary to their initial wish, they truly win by going to be with Him.
16 posted on 08/18/2011 2:47:55 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: annalex

Also realizing the importance of free will.


18 posted on 08/18/2011 4:22:35 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: annalex
Further, it is not right to wish that they leave the Church because it is the same as wishing their eternal damnation.

Not necessarily. If they don't believe the Church is who she says she is, they may actually be morally obligated to leave to save their souls.

Peter Kreeft writes:

Such people are usually surprised and pleased to find out that Saint Thomas Aquinas, of all people, agrees with them to such an extent that he says if a Catholic comes to believe the Church is in error in some essential, officially defined doctrine, it is a mortal sin against conscience, a sin of hypocrisy, for him to remain in the Church and call himself a Catholic, but only a venial sin against knowledge for him to leave the Church in honest but partly culpable error. -- Kreeft, Article "Argument from Conscience" on his website

22 posted on 08/18/2011 5:50:05 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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