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To: marbren

Putting it simply; Pastors are Elders. Or Shepherds, Presbyters, Bishops, Overseers, and etc.

Two verses to consider.

I Timothy 3:1-7 and
Titus 1:5-9

Scriptural terms misused by denominations: Titus 2:1

Applying “pastor” as a synonym for the pulpit preacher. All pastors are pulpit preachers, but not all preachers are pastors.

Applying “pastor” “Elder” or “Bishop” to any women. Women are forbidden to be such: 1 Tim 2:12

Applying “pastor” to any young man, any single man, or a married man who has no children, or a married man whose children are not faithful in Christ

Applying “evangelist” exclusively to pulpit preachers who preach in different churches every Sunday, while refusing to call a “located preacher” an “evangelist” because he preaches in the same church every Sunday. The terms, evangelist, preacher and minister are interchangeable terms and the Bible makes no distinction as to whether the minister is located or moving around from week to week.

Applying “elder” to any young man, as Mormon missionaries insist they be called as they go door to door. Such a term applied to a young man is a violation of common sense.

more....

http://www.bible.ca/ntx-elders-pastors-bishops.htm


2 posted on 08/16/2011 7:23:22 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Very interesting, St Paul does speak of office of overseer and elder however.
This author seems to want a democratic model for the church which may have other problems.
4 posted on 08/16/2011 7:25:20 AM PDT by marbren (I do not know but Thank God God knows)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Excellent points.


9 posted on 08/16/2011 7:33:35 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Putting it simply; Pastors are Elders. Or Shepherds, Presbyters, Bishops, Overseers, and etc.

“Two verses to consider.I Timothy 3:1-7 and
Titus 1:5-9

“Scriptural terms misused by denominations: Titus 2:1

“Applying “pastor” as a synonym for the pulpit preacher. All pastors are pulpit preachers, but not all preachers are pastors.

“Applying “pastor” “Elder” or “Bishop” to any women. Women are forbidden to be such: 1 Tim 2:12

“Applying “pastor” to any young man, any single man, or a married man who has no children, or a married man whose children are not faithful in Christ

“Applying “evangelist” exclusively to pulpit preachers who preach in different churches every Sunday, while refusing to call a “located preacher” an “evangelist” because he preaches in the same church every Sunday. The terms, evangelist, preacher and minister are interchangeable terms and the Bible makes no distinction as to whether the minister is located or moving around from week to week.”

Excellent.

A much needed reference to scripture to clear up a lot of confusion created by misuse of Biblical terms.


70 posted on 08/16/2011 5:36:15 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If a pastor or elder’s wife or children die suddenly, is he then removed from that office?


85 posted on 08/16/2011 10:12:56 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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