Posted on 05/18/2011 3:35:14 AM PDT by Cronos
The Presbytery of Charlotte added its support Tuesday to ending the ban on gays and lesbians becoming clergy and lay leaders in the Presbyterian Church (USA).
Presbyterian church leaders from the seven-county Charlotte region voted 162-154 to change the denomination's constitution by removing a 1997 amendment that said the ordained must either be single and chaste or in a heterosexual marriage.
..The Rev. Kate Murphy of Hickory Grove Presbyterian, who made the case for removing the ban on gays and lesbians, said her reading of Scripture told her that "committed monogamous homosexual relations are not sinful in God's eyes."
(Excerpt) Read more at charlotteobserver.com ...
"We wanted the presbytery to know that support of this (change) came not just from liberal pastors, but also from lay people," said Doug Oldenburg, a former pastor of Charlotte's Covenant Presbyterian (1972-1987) who also served as the denomination's national moderator in 1988-89."came not just from liberal pastors, but also from lay people," -- has everyone gone mad?
In North Carolina, four of the five presbyteries have now voted for the change. With 40,000 Presbyterians and 130 churches, the Presbytery of Charlotte is the denomination's third largest in the country.
“Committed monogamous homosexual relations are not sinful in God’s eyes”
What Bible did that come from?
Were the Sodomites who were in “committed monogamous homosexual relations” spared God’s wrath?
Last time I looked, presbyteries got their $$ from parishioners. Is there a bailout in the works?
Presbyterians - they count on your checks.
“committed monogamous homosexual relations are not sinful
Well dang...HER reading of scripture, eh?
Must be right after the verse praising Onan for relieving himself....
I sure missed it....
If anyone ever wondered how Sodom came into existence, how a city full of people came to be sinful in the eyes of God, take a peek. It’s happening.
Note that this is the Presbyterian USA, not PCA, although it has been a long time since the Holy Spirit has dwelt in those old denominations. The First Presbyterian in the middle of uptown Charlotte, was the home of the original Mecklenburg Scotch-Irish delagation to the provincial congress in 1775, that were so instrumental in the settling of the those frontier areas back in the early 1700s. There are wood carvings in that building that show people being “slain in the spirit” while driving their buggies up to the front of the church!.
Not far from there, over by the Presbyterian Hospital, is Caldwell Presbyterian, that houses the Islamic training center in their old Sunday school building, no joke!
How far we have fallen.
Another symptom of their problem.
They need some more of that good ole calvinism taught to them. lol
They need some more of that good ole calvinism taught to them. lol
Well, it would explain why I don’t see stories of any child molestation cases outside of the Catholic Church.
They don’t prosecute it - they promote it!
The Rev. Kate Murphy of Hickory Grove Presbyterian, who made the case for removing the ban on gays and lesbians, said her reading of Scripture told her that “committed monogamous homosexual relations are not sinful in God’s eyes.”
She must be the greatest exegete since St. Paul.
So, for these heretics, the Word of God is what a democracy wishes it to be?! That would be funny, if it were not so perverse. I’ll be praying for their recovery from blindness.
The teaching that matrimony is a sacrament gives to a religious clergy the power to judge the lawfulness of marriages and power of ecclesiastical censure for divorce...
The government of men’s external actions by religion, pretending the change of nature in their consecrations cannot be esteemed a work extraordinary, it is no other than a conjuration or incantation, whereby they would have men to believe an alteration of nature that is contrary to the testimony of sight and of all the rest of the senses...
The idea “thou shalt marry and be given in marriage” is corrupt and degenerate, which is an impossible immortality of a kind (i.e. “eternal love), but not of the persons of men.
She’s just making it all up
yes, that's the problem when you try to use a vote to decide what a sin is or not.
The sewer spreads....
true, the sewer spreads.
"Never mind what He actually SAID, *MY* interpretation tells me He meant something else entirely." You betcha, Katie.
yes, the failure of people 2000 years later interpreting whatever they want and then voting in sin.
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