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Rob Bell's "Love Wins" and the Biblical Doctrine of Hell
BibleProphecyBlog.com ^ | April 8, 2011 | Dr. Randy Alcorn

Posted on 04/09/2011 7:49:57 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

I mentioned in an earlier post Rob Bell’s book Love Wins. I read it several weeks ago. It contains some good and accurate things here and there, but unfortunately its central message is in explicit contradiction to Scripture and historic Christianity.

Oddly, Bell insists that he’s not a universalist, yet his book indicates that he believes exactly what universalism does — that every human being will ultimately be saved, and that none will experience Hell. To teach this and yet claim you’re not a universalist (just because you disagree with some things that some universalists think) is like saying that though you cheer for the Red Sox you’re not a Red Sox fan, or though you own a dog, you are not a dog-owner. I mean, come on, go ahead and qualify the brand of universalist you are, but don’t deny you’re a universalist when your core belief is the core belief of universalism. The very fact that Bell can make such a statement and get away with it is indicative of the sort of cloudy thinking that has taken hold.

I recommended before Kevin DeYoung’s excellent detailed critique of Love Wins. I want to add my recommendation of Dan Franklin’s new and outstanding 35-minute podcast concerning Love Wins. Dan is a clear-thinking, biblically-based pastor at my home church. (He is also a fine husband to my daughter Karina and a loving father to my grandsons Matt and Jack, but that’s not why I’m recommending this audio commentary!) Dan does a weekly podcast called Groupthink Rescue, and Love Wins is his subject this week. He’s also written a more detailed critique, but I found his podcast particularly clear, thoughtful and easy to listen to. If you’re going to invest just a half hour on this issue, I can’t think of a better way to do it. You can also listen to or download from iTunes, and subscribe to his podcast, which has other equally good episodes.

I posted earlier a link to the chapter on Hell from my book If God is Good. Someone who read Bell’s book and then my chapter said to me that oddly, it appeared to them as if I had made an attempt at refuting every major point of Bell’s book. Obviously that wasn’t the case, since I wrote it two years before Bell’s book came out. But when I read Love Wins, at times I saw why this reader thought that. I suppose Rob Bell has successfully set forth all the modern presumptions that people bring to this issue, and that keep them from trusting the biblical teaching about Hell that has been part of historic Christianity. In addressing those presumptions, without knowing it, I was anticipating Bell’s book. This also shows that, as Bell admits, he’s not saying much that’s new. Unfortunately, he is reaching a huge audience, and his book sales have been further fueled by the controversy. But I would rather have more books sell and more people equipped to refute his teachings, than avoid the controversy — some things warrant controversy, and this is one of them, since the gospel itself is on the line — and not just before the watching world, but inside churches.

What most breaks my heart is that, when it comes down to it, Bell is actually saying “Jesus was wrong.” Now, of course, he would never actually say that in those words. Nor does he consciously believe it. But because (as I show in both Heaven and If God is Good) Jesus is absolutely emphatic on the reality and nature and eternality of Hell, it is impossible to disbelieve in Hell, and to believe in universal salvation, and actually believe what Jesus said.

Why? Because Jesus referred to Hell as a real place and described it in graphic terms (see Matthew 10:28; 13:40–42; Mark 9:43–48). He spoke of a fire that burns but doesn’t consume, an undying worm that eats away at the damned, and a lonely and foreboding darkness.

Christ says the unsaved “will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matthew 8:12). Jesus taught that an unbridgeable chasm separates the wicked in Hell from the righteous in Paradise. The wicked suffer terribly, remain conscious, retain their desires and memories, long for relief, cannot find comfort, cannot leave their torment, and have no hope (see Luke 16:19–31).

Our Savior could not have painted a bleaker picture of Hell.

C. S. Lewis said,

“I have met no people who fully disbelieved in Hell and also had a living and life-giving belief in Heaven.” [1]

The biblical teaching on both destinations stands or falls together. If the one is real, so is the other; if the one is a myth, so is the other. The best reason for believing in Hell is that Jesus said it exists.

Some will say, “Okay, maybe Hell exists, but no one will go there, or if they do it will only be temporary; surely Hell is not eternal.” But Jesus said,

“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life” (Matthew 25:46).

Here in the same sentence, Christ uses the word “eternal”(aionos) to describe the duration of both Heaven and Hell. Thus, according to our Lord, if some will consciously experience Heaven forever, then some must consciously experience Hell forever.

The best reason for believing Hell not only exists, but will be inhabited by people and is eternal, is that Jesus said so in the clearest possible language.

It isn’t just what Jesus said about Hell that matters. It’s the fact that it was He who said it.

“There seems to be a kind of conspiracy,” wrote Dorothy Sayers, “to forget, or to conceal, where the doctrine of Hell comes from. The doctrine of Hell is not ‘mediaeval priestcraft’ for frightening people into giving money to the church: it is Christ’s deliberate judgment on sin.... We cannot repudiate Hell without altogether repudiating Christ.” [2]

Why do I believe in an eternal Hell? Because Jesus clearly and repeatedly affirmed its existence. As Sayers suggested, you cannot dismiss Hell without dismissing Jesus.

Atheist Bertrand Russell wrote,

“There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in Hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment.” [3]

Shall we believe Jesus or Bertrand Russell? For me, it is not a difficult choice.

C. S. Lewis said of Hell,

“There is no doctrine which I would more willingly remove from Christianity than this, if it lay in my power. But it has the full support of Scripture and, specially, of Our Lord’s own words; it has always been held by Christendom; and it has the support of reason.” [4]

We cannot make Hell go away simply because the thought of it makes us uncomfortable. If I were as holy as God, if I knew a fraction of what He knows, I would realize Hell is just and right. We should weep over Hell, but not deny it.

Rob Bell is a pastor, and has a lot of influence on other pastors, and not only in emergent churches. And that is perhaps the greatest tragedy in this. Titus 1:9 says this of the church leader:

“He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.”

It is every pastor’s job to correct doctrinal error, particularly in the central issues of the faith. When a pastor actually promotes doctrinal error, this is particularly serious. And it puts a heavy responsibility on other pastors, who understandably don’t want to appear to be critical, to correct and refute doctrinal heresy.

It grieves me how many people are reading Rob Bell’s book and books such as The Shack (where universalism is not explicit but clearly flirted with) and other writings contradicted by Scripture, whose pastors don’t consider it their job to enter into controversy. We have elevated tolerance over sound doctrine, and appearing to be nice, over being truthful. As Jesus was, we should be full of grace and truth, not choose one over the other.

We dare not act as though love demands we be quiet about the truth. In fact, Scripture calls upon us to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15). I would encourage all pastors to address this issue. Consider going to your pastor and asking him to preach about the biblical doctrine of Hell in light of all the fuzzy thinking on this issue that is out there, and has been galvanized through Bell’s book. (Fifteen years apart, I spent hours in dialogue, citing passage after passage, to two different highly influential former pastors, each of whose books have sold millions of copies to evangelical Christians. Both of these men gradually became universalists, and they believe most of what Bell is now teaching; perhaps one of them influenced him, I don’t know.)

It is not loving to be silent when people are told the lie that they need not turn to Christ in this lifetime to be saved from their sins. If people believe that there is no Hell, or that they cannot end up in Hell, or that Hell is not their default and fully deserved destination, then it virtually guarantees they will end up in the Hell that Rob Bell doesn’t believe in.

In the final day no one will stand before me in judgment. No one will stand before Rob Bell in judgment. We will all stand before Jesus in judgment. And it is His view of Hell, not mine or Rob Bell’s, that will be proven, forever, to be true.

If Rob Bell is right and there isn’t an eternal Hell, or no one will end up there, then Jesus made a terrible mistake. And if we cannot trust Jesus in His teaching about Hell, why should we trust anything He said, including His offer of salvation?

We may pride ourselves in thinking we are too loving to believe in Hell. But in saying this, we blaspheme, for we claim to be more loving than Jesus — more loving than the One who with outrageous love took upon himself the full penalty for our sin.

Who are we to think we are better than Jesus?

Or that when it comes to Hell, or anything else, we know better than He does?

Endnotes [1] C. S. Lewis, Letters to Malcolm (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2002), 76.
[2] Dorothy Sayers, Introductory Papers on Dante (London: Methuen, 1954), 44.
[3] Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1957), 17.
[4] C. S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain (New York: Macmillan, 1962), 118.


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The prophesied apostasy of the church continues.
1 posted on 04/09/2011 7:49:58 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

bump


2 posted on 04/09/2011 7:53:07 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (Public Service Announcement. As of 4/9/11, 577 days 'til we take out the trash. (November 6 2012))
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
If Rob Bell is right and there isn’t an eternal Hell, or no one will end up there, then Jesus made a terrible mistake.

There WAS a Hell in our future. Then Jesus, Sovereign God of the universe allowed Himself to be sacrificed for our sin.

If everyone gets saved what does that make the sacrifice a mistake? Is his sacrifice valid only if only a fraction get saved?

3 posted on 04/09/2011 7:59:47 AM PDT by DManA
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
People who spend their lives in evil and falsity end up in hell. It appears a horrible place to angels in heaven.

What you love in life is how you will spend eternity.

4 posted on 04/09/2011 8:12:00 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DManA
So you would disagree with Jesus words that only those who believe on Him will be saved?
5 posted on 04/09/2011 8:21:37 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

No.


6 posted on 04/09/2011 8:23:39 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
First of all, there is not one verse of Scripture which states that all people will be saved. On the contrary, God says:

“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. “For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it." (Matthew 7:13, 14)

Jesus left Heaven and came here and died for us and took the sins of the entire world on Himself knowing that most people would reject Him. He died knowing that His sacrifice on the Cross would be the only way that human beings could be reconciled with God.

As He stated, most people will choose to reject Him. Those people have the right to make that choice, and God will honor their choice, and there is a place for them for eternity where they will not be forced to be with the One Who they wanted nothing to do with. But for those who would choose to accept Him and His death on the cross as payment for their sin; for those who would choose to surrender their lives to Him and love Him and have a relationship with Him, His death on the cross, to Him, was worth it.

More people will choose death over life. We are assured of that by Christ Himself. While He died for all, only a few will accept His death on their behalf. There is no assurance whatsoever in Scripture that everyone will be saved, and there is no assurance whatsoever in Scripture that no one will escape Hell. Indeed, Jesus makes it more than clear that the opposite is the truth.

7 posted on 04/09/2011 8:23:49 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: DManA; All

It’s called “Grace”, the only unforgivable sin is denying Christ.Even the most wretched can be saved by admission of the sin and accepting Christ. That is what Jesus truly did for all of us, otherwise it would have no meaning to humanity.


8 posted on 04/09/2011 8:27:35 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Evidently Alcom doesn’t understand what the Bible says about hell any better than Bell or Russell.
The “hell” of the Bible is the grave not the place of popular imagination.


9 posted on 04/09/2011 8:35:04 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

>>“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life” (Matthew 25:46).

Here in the same sentence, Christ uses the word “eternal”(aionos) to describe the duration of both Heaven and Hell. Thus, according to our Lord, if some will consciously experience Heaven forever, then some must consciously experience Hell forever. <<

We all need to be careful when we interpret scripture. The above is a good example. If one examines the scripture above closely, one goes to eternal “life” while the other goes to something that is clearly not. And their condition is eternal. I look at it this way: If I say I am going to paint a fence blue for eternity, do I mean I am going to be forever painting the fence, or do I mean I will paint it once, and for eternity it will remain blue?

Here is an article in between the two positions. It says some will go on to eternal life and some won’t, but only those who go to eternal life will be cognizant of their position for eternity. After all, they are the only ones who are “alive” in eternity.

HELL: Eternal Torment or Complete Annihilation?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2240648/posts


10 posted on 04/09/2011 8:35:41 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Bell insists that he’s not a universalist

'Universalist', 'tea-bagger', 'racist'. I just can't understand why we don't like it when others want to categorize us by their terms.

Some 'universalists' believe that all paths lead to God, that kind of stuff...my understanding. I haven't read this book, but I think I know people with similar beliefs to what I think this guy says - that all will be redeemed. They still believe that the sacrifice on the cross, the need for a redeemer, and the 'all encompassing' death on the cross. It is actually similar to calvinism, as I understand it. Calvin says that all the elect will be saved, that the sacrifice is 100% effective in those that it was meant to save. 'Universal salvation' says that is was just meant to save 'all mankind'...Sorry to those from any/either camp for my dime-store summation to the belief systems.

11 posted on 04/09/2011 8:44:19 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: count-your-change

Then how do you explain the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus?


12 posted on 04/09/2011 8:44:37 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

Hell is not eternal, the lake of fire is. Hell is cast into the lake of fire after the judgment of the wicked dead.


13 posted on 04/09/2011 8:51:55 AM PDT by rightwingjew
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

>>Who are we to think we are better than Jesus?

Or that when it comes to Hell, or anything else, we know better than He does? <<

I find that often people base their opinions not on what He said, but on what they think He meant. The concept of eternity is a good example. I like to use this analogy to explain the difference between our reality and the flow of time compared to eternity this way:

Time is a current that flows in an ocean called eternity. One can believe in eternal punishment the same way they believe that a newspaper burned to start a camp fire is eternally destroyed: The fire goes on, but the paper was quickly consumed, never to be seen or heard from again.

The whole concept of biblical “eternity” is very difficult, if not impossible, for man to understand. The closest we can come is to think of it as “time, never ending”. But that is not really how the bible describes it. I feel that in it’s attempt to describe eternity it is a bit like trying to explain the color “red” to someone that has only ever been able to see the world in gray-scale. We can argue that those who are not written in the book of life will not receive eternal life, and even be thrown in the lake of fire, but any speculation on what they “experience consciously” after that is just that, speculation. And even using the phrase “after that” is based on the flow of time in this reality, not heaven.

Which begs the question, “How many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin anyway?”


14 posted on 04/09/2011 9:01:29 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: DManA

There is a difference between salvation and forgiveness.

The work on the Cross was directed at God the Father, from the humanity of Jesus Christ, the Son in kenosis (not exercising His Divinity), remaining humble and obedient to the Will of the Father, receiving the imputation of all human sins upon himself as viewed from God the Father, providing the Perfect Sacrifice to atone (cover) for all personal human sins to God the Father, to propitiate the wrath of God the Father, to redeem all humanity to God the Father from the slave market of sin, receiving all judgment from God the Father as a substitute for us.

This one act solved the problem of sin interfering with the regeneration of the human spirit in the believer. Since only God is able to convert the human and provide life to those who are dead, and He remains perfectly just and righteous, the penalty of sin had to be paid to remove that barrier between God and man judicially.

Now removed, the spiritually dead or natural man is able to come to God by faith, not by works, so that He is free to give the new believer eternal life by the regeneration of his human spirit. This occurs when the unbeliever hears the Word of God, accepts faith in Him, and is immediately given many things by God, by His grace.

This salvation manifests His love for all mankind because it is offered freely to the entire world. Those who reject Him, and never accept Him through faith in Christ are not forgiven, hence remain condemned.


15 posted on 04/09/2011 9:08:11 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Persevero

As a parable that must be understood as such in view of the rest of the Scriptures.


16 posted on 04/09/2011 9:08:37 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: seeker41

>>It’s called “Grace”, the only unforgivable sin is denying Christ.Even the most wretched can be saved by admission of the sin and accepting Christ. That is what Jesus truly did for all of us, otherwise it would have no meaning to humanity.<<

The older I get, the more I tend to think that those that go to hell will do so LITERALLY because they consciously make the choice. I’ve actually discussed this with some pretty diehard “Jesus haters” on a musicians board and more than one has said, basically, “Even if the whole Jesus thing is true I would still reject it.”

That says it all.


17 posted on 04/09/2011 9:09:07 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

>>“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. “For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.” (Matthew 7:13, 14) <<

Regarding that, as with the “Lazarus and the rich man” parable, Jesus was talking to a “pre-Christianity” crowd.

After his death, the book of Revelation says, in chapter 7:

Verses 9 and 10
After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God,who sits on the throne,and to the Lamb.”

Verses 13 and 14
Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?”

I answered, “Sir, you know.”

And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”


18 posted on 04/09/2011 9:14:00 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: count-your-change
Well, I'm going to go by what Jesus said about it.

If you can produce Scripture which contradicts everything Jesus told us about Hell, I'll take a look at it. Otherwise, I have to consider your post to be simply an opinion.

19 posted on 04/09/2011 9:16:44 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Persevero

>>Then how do you explain the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus?<<

Glad you asked. Here is a very good one:

http://www.jeremyandchristine.com/articles/lazarus.html


20 posted on 04/09/2011 9:17:37 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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