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To: Godzilla

You need to look here. You are being misled as is obvious by your worn out propaganda.

Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the “issues” brought up in the anti-Mormon propaganda can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here’s more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/


5 posted on 03/21/2011 7:30:34 PM PDT by Paragon Defender (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil....)
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To: Paragon Defender
OK, lets look from your sites, from OFFICIAL AUTHORIZED sources eh?

2 NEPHI 25:23: “For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.”

Grace only counts 'after all we can do' - how do you know you've done enough for salvation? Evidently Christ's resurrection doesn't mean much. Lets try another.

MORONI 10:32: “Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God.”

My my, for Christ's grace to be sufficient the mormon must remove ALL ungodliness FIRST. Well, tell me pd are you completely godly, completely sinless???? So far I've been correct, lets try another

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 25:15: “Keep my commandments continually, and a crown of righteousness thou shalt receive. And except thou do this, where I am you cannot come.”

Hmmmm, we cannot be with God unless we keep the commandments CONTINUALLY. Do you meet this requirement pd??? Lets look at another

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 1:31-32: “For I the Lord cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance; Nevertheless, he that repents and does the commandments of the Lord shall be forgiven.”

Well, if you repent, but what is repentance in mormonism?

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 58:43: “By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them.”

Oh, you must completely stop sinning to really repent. Well what happens when you slip up pd?

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS 82:7: “And now, verily I say unto you, I, the Lord, will not lay any sin to your charge; go your ways and sin no more; but unto that soul who sinneth shall the former sins return, saith the Lord your God.”

Wow, God dumps you right back to square zero huh. All those temple works, other works of righteousness - up in a puff of smoke, and then some. How often do you keep trying to repent pd? How successful have you been pd? Lets see what else you 'sources' tell me.

ALMA 11:37: “And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins.”

Well, this isn't looking too good. You have to do the work getting sin out of your life, live completely sinless and if you sin, well YOUR scriptures say you cannot be saved in your sin. Really Pd - you have to do all the work first too. What else do your sources say?

“…for I know that the Lord giveth no commandments unto the children of men, save he shall prepare a way for them that they may accomplish the thing which he commandeth them.”—1 Nephi 3:7

Hmmmm, only have this life time to become perfectly sinless. Is that the what this says? One of your prophets makes this clear -

“This progress toward eternal life is a matter of achieving perfection. Living all the commandments guarantees total forgiveness of sins and assures one of exaltation through that perfection which comes by complying with the formula the Lord gave us. In his Sermon on the Mount he made the command to all men: ‘Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.’ (Matt. 5:48) Being perfect means to triumph over sin. This is a mandate from the Lord. He is just and wise and kind. He would never require anything from his children which was not for their benefit and which was not attainable. Perfection therefore is an achievable goal.”—The Miracle of Forgiveness, 1969, Spencer W. Kimball, pp. 208-209

Well, there you have it pd - if you are not perfect in this life you fail. Is that correct?

And the burden of the prophetic warning has been that the time to act is now, in this mortal life. One cannot with impunity delay his compliance with God’s commandments.” —The Miracle of Forgiveness, pp. 7, 10

Yep, in this mortal life pd. Are you perfect yet? Why not pd?

Hmmmmmm, it appears that my statement is completely correct by mormon doctrine standard works and the directed teaching of your prophet. It is clear I'm not the one being misled by worn out propaganda.

8 posted on 03/21/2011 8:15:51 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Paragon Defender; Godzilla
You are doing it again.

Do you really need to keep being reminded when you address those of us who have called you in your game?

14 posted on 03/21/2011 9:29:25 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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