Posted on 03/19/2011 5:54:58 PM PDT by daniel1212
Point-by-point refutations are a waste of time with a whackjob like Camping. Any Christian with more than a passing knowledge of Scripture will ignore him as the nutcase he is, and no amount of logic will change the mind of someone who is gullible enough to follow him.
He is actually quite notorious, and devoutly followed by too many, and I am bewildered why. Likely coming to a city near you.
Are you telling us that if May 21st passes without incident, Harold Camping is going to get stoned? (Pun intended). I thought he ALREADY WAS stoned when he made the prediction a while back. Oh well!
You would think. But claiming to speak for God’s authority in such a way is a capital crime, and as seen in Jer 20 and 28, God can execute such sovereignly. May we all walk in the fear of the Lord.
I am blessed to be part of a small faith tract (etc) ministry, and though i am mostly here, the reports are that Camping’s crusaders are quite active. Which is why i put together the tract.
Some of his followers will give up on God, thinking everything is a hoax. But many will still believe in Camping. He will anounce a new revelation/calculation and his followers will eagerly accept this and forget his old predictions. You see, when people have invested in a false idea, it is hard for some to admit that they were fooled. So they will loudly proclaim whatever Camping’s next prediction becomes.
There is this mindset with millennial cults. They think they have God’s secrets all figured out because they are so smart and spiritual. The cult leader tells his followers they are special because they follow him and they know God’s secrets. You are an insider, you are not only one of the elect - you are one of the elite! Some people eat this up.
I was going to ask the same thing. I don't recall ever hearing of him.
Ok. I heard some of his clips from the link you provided..Fool me once... Besides being nuts and a charlatan, his voice is annoying.
See Daniel’s post 26.
I listen to his station for the music. Family Radio plays only traditional Christian hymns and gospel songs and eschews the "praise music" found everywhere else. But when it comes to theology, I hold to my Methodist beliefs.
A commonality of most cults, in the sense that their particular group alone has validity, under one leader or office to whom they give a implicit loyalty as a type of Christ, versus Mk. 9:39,40
Thanks for the heads up.
I think I’ve heard of Family Radio. I’ll have to look into it more and see if mr. mm knows any more about it.
In 1988 Camping left the Christian Reformed Church, and joined a local fellowship in Alameda, Ca. which he would also later leave
I posted this link in another thread: "JUDGMENT DAY, MAY 21, 2011? - HAROLD CAMPING & The UNTOLD STORY ". It has some information about the circumstances of Campings departure from the CRC. It's worth a read.
It looks like his date for the "end of the church age" is very coincidently the same or close to the date of his removal as a teacher in the Alameda Christian Reformed Church.
Pride and bitterness had so overcome Camping that he was able to declare that upon the year of his censure and departure from the church, God was done with the entire church, and from that time forward, God would only work in the “true believers” who were willing to take the stand with Camping and come out of the church. This is a severe warning of what can happen to those who reject the elders who rule with the authority of Christ. Over forty percent of the Alameda CRC, many of whom were employed by Family Radio, “went out” from the church and subsequently started their own “fellowship”....
In a scheme that rivals C.I. Scofield’s dispensationalism, Camping’s teachings are again inflicting fear and confusion upon many in the church. If anyone is to be saved, declares Camping, he must be saved “outside” the church since God has rejected anyone “identified with any church”.[7] What became of the ordinances of the church? Camping declared that since the church age ended and people were to leave the churches, the sacraments were also to be discontinued—an astonishing claim since the church is commanded to observe them until Christ comes (1 Cor. 11:26). Since Camping has of late rejected the doctrine of hell, anyone who does not repent by rejecting the church will simply be annihilated. The date Camping has set for the final judgment of the world is May 21, 2011.
Bad eschatology has consequences.
What happens to these weak minded people on May 22nd?
With history as a guide, some might go back to normal churches, many will bail out entirely, some will believe a recalibrated model and soldier on.
Campingite signs I've seen pictures of say "it begins May 21, 2011". They've got an out.
I remember being in a public place and overhearing a millennial enthusiast “witness” to someone. He said, excitedly, “Obama is the AntiChrist!” (he quickly rattled a chapter and verse Hezekiah 3:14 or whatever) then he said with confidence and ecstacy, “New York City is Babylon (another chapter and verse) and it will be destroyed in a nuclear explosion and it will happen this year!” I looked over at him and he seemed like he was beside himself with joy. This was, I think, two years ago.
That is what happens when some people who call themselves Christians get caught up in date setting and idle speculation. They don’t talk much about Christ. Instead they “witness” about some numerology trick they came up with or the latest revelation from their T.V. preacher.
Is that what they call themselves "Campingites"?
I don't know what they call themselves. Anyone know?
Harold’s camping and making predictions? Nice life if you can get it!
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