[CynicalBear]

I’ll challenge any person who says there is no rapture and that the true and faithful believers will go through the punishment of the tribulation to find one source in scripture that the true and faithful ever went through that type of punishment from God.

[JohnnyM]

"true and faithful believers"

How do you define true and faithful believers? Will all who believe be raptured?

Now I believe there will be a rapture, but not all Christians will be raptured. Of the seven churches in Revelation, only one is promised not to go through the tribulation.

Only 5 of the 10 virgins meet the bride groom.

If all Christians will be raptured why then the warning from Jesus to watch and pray? Wouldn't those Christians who didnt watch and pray be raptured if all are raptured?

JM

[DManA]

the true and faithful believers will go through the punishment

True and faithful believers has endured horrendous agonies in the past 2000 years. They are called martyrs. God promises his grace will be sufficient for anything we must endure on Earth.