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To: Paragon Defender
To Latter-day Saints, the words saved and salvation in this teaching signify a present covenant relationship with Jesus Christ in which we are assured salvation from the consequences of sin if we are obedient.
It must be made clear that the meaning of "obedient" means to be obedient to the LDS rules, not the Jesus of the Bible.

You speak of a "covenant relationship with Jesus Christ in which we are assured salvation."

It must be clear that the Mormons have a diffent Jesus, one that had a father who had a father etc etc.

And a Jesus that has a brother who is satan.

The Bible speaks much of false Christs, do NOT use our Historical Biblical Jesus for your salvation, unless you wish to follow Him instead of your Jesus.

Thanks.

You do believe in the documented LDS teachings about your Jesus, don't you?

28 posted on 01/10/2011 10:47:46 AM PST by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Syncro

To make it clear, my questions in #28 are to the writer of this article, not to you.

You may answer them for him though if you wish.


30 posted on 01/10/2011 11:03:06 AM PST by Syncro
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To: Syncro
 
It must be made clear that the meaning of "obedient" means to be obedient to the LDS rules, not the Jesus of the Bible.
 
May as well post the FACTS!
 



Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.


They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

 

39 posted on 01/10/2011 12:17:25 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Syncro; T Minus Four; reaganaut; Godzilla; ejonesie22; Colofornian; svcw; colorcountry; SZonian; ...
You speak of a "covenant relationship with Jesus Christ in which we are assured salvation."

The glaringly false part of that statement is left unsaid...this "covenant relationship between mormons and Jesus Christ" supposedly binds God/Christ by means of arcane rituals based mostly on Masonic practices which take place in secretive ceremonies and consist of handshakes worthy of an LA street gang, massaging the bare flesh of others with oil most likely purchased in bulk from Sam's club and chanting nonsense syllables reminiscent of the old song, "The Lion Sleeps Tonight". All the while wearing white jump suits, little aprons for both sexes and bakers' hats for the men.

Small wonder this takes part in a building that allows entrance only to mormons who meet the entrance requirements that include 10% of their lifetime income.

41 posted on 01/10/2011 12:29:45 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Don't enter a battlefield with flowers for succor when surgeons are saving the lives of the wounded.)
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