I left the Catholic Church when I realized that I had never been told the truth about how we are saved. In the various and sundry discussions I have had with Catholic Freepers, I have yet to see that this has changed. There is still a veil over the eyes of everyone who cannot or will not accept that we are saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. I have no leading from God to return to it.
I am well aware of all the verses you have provided, and I would like to know from you just exactly who or what you think Jesus actually is. I think we agree on why he came but I am not sure where you stand on this question of who/what about Jesus. If you would like to continue to discuss it, I am open. I have complete confidence in what and why I believe what I do about the who/what of Jesus and would be glad to share that as well.
Hope you have a blessed evening.
Thanks again for the conversation. I am helping my bride watch our very busy 3 year old grandson to give his parents a break. We will be returning him later today and I will have the time to answer in more detail.
My post @ 559 makes it clear I think Jesus had to be exactly like Adam.
It was late when I posted after a day with Scout. I forgot to add this question to you.
How can a righteous God put a penalty of death as a sentence for us disagreeing with Him. Especially if we were incapable of doing so as He created us with free will?
That is the sin Adam committed. God told Adam he was not to eat of the tree. Satan convinced Adam to disagree with God.
The only way a fair and/or a righteous God could administer such a penalty is to prove that a man just like Adam was capable of that task.
I believe Jesus was that man.
Thanks again. Looking forward to your response. BVB