Posted on 12/30/2010 12:11:03 PM PST by GonzoII
"Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
(KJV)
"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.": The Lord Jesus Christ taught Sola Scriptura
Here’s the problem to refuting Sola Scriptura: you’ve just opened the door to all those that want to “phase out” the parts of the Bible they don’t like, i.e. homosexual conduct.
For later read.
Never crossed my mind. I'm trying to phase in its clear reference to Tradition.
And, whatever shall we do with that pesky St. John 1:1?
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11. It assumes the infallibility of man’s understanding.
But to assume that the phrase "every word" means "scripture alone" simply begs the question doesn't it?
2Thes:2:15:
"Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
Care to name any of these oral traditions?
Do you have an infallible list of them we can see?
Just to state the obvious: Jesus the the Word of the Father. Jesus is a Person. Scripture is a book (or collection of books). A Person is not a book. QED.
There are those who think that arrogating to himself the right to make pronouncements which are co-equal with Scripture is somewhat prideful of the Pope.
Concerning the divine and sacred Mysteries of the Faith, we ought not to deliver even the most casual remark without the Holy Scriptures; nor be drawn aside by mere probabilities and the artifices of argument. Do not then believe me because I tell thee of these things, unless thou receive from the Holy Scriptures the proof of what is set forth: for this salvation, which is our faith, is not by ingenious reasonings, but by proof from the Holy Scriptures....In these articles we comprehend the whole doctrine of faith….For the articles of the Faith were not composed at the good pleasure of men, but the most important points chosen from all Scriptures, make up the one teaching of the Faith….This Faith, in a few words, hath enfolded in its bosom the whole knowledge of godliness contained both in the Old and New Testaments. Behold, therefore, brethren and hold the traditions (2 Thes. 2:15) which ye now receive, and write them on the table of your hearts....Now heed not any ingenious views of mine; else thou mayest be misled; but unless thou receive the witness of the prophets concerning each matter, believe not what is spoken; unless thou learn from Holy Scripture....receive not the witness of man.
Cyril of Jerusalem was a bishop of one of the most important sees of the church and responsible for instructing catechumens in the faith. No clearer concept of sola scriptura could be given than that seen in these statements of Cyril. He equates the teaching he is handing on to these catechumens with tradition, in which he specifically references 2 Thessalonians 2:15, that he says must be proven by Scripture. Tradition is simply the teaching of the church that he is passing on orally, but that tradition must be validated by the written Scriptures. He states further that the extent of authority vested in any teacher, be he bishop or layman, is limited to Scripture. No teaching is to be received that cannot be proven from Scripture. The church does have authority, as Cyril himself acknowledges, but it is an authority grounded in fidelity to Scripture and not principally in succession. According to Cyril, the church is subject to the final authority of Scripture, and even the church is to be disregarded if it moves outside that authority in its teaching.
http://www.christiantruth.com/articles/Testimony.html
Mk:16:15:
"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." (KJV)
Mk:3:14:
"And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach." (KJV)
Lk:9:2:
"And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick". (KJV)
Where did He command to write anything? The only record of Him writing is when He wrote on the ground and the content of which is unknown to us:
Jn:8:8:
"And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground". (KJV)
How many people could read back then or even now for that matter?
Perhaps. But as any good Protestant will tell you, the Pope's interpretation is also a private, and at times prideful, interpretation.
"Feed my sheep".
As a Protestant, I find this post very enlightening, especially with the Biblical references.
I’ve bookmarked it (and the original website) for later reference.
I think you just made my point for reason #11 as you had to make your own interpretation to that meaning Sola Scriptura- it did not say that the scriptures and the scriptures alone are the final authority, you interpenetrated it that way. As we know through history, through the hundreds of denominations and translations, abuses and mistakes, that “Sola Scriptura” without guidance of tradition or the Holy Spirit is prone to be abused. It is the root of the phrase ‘you can prove anything with the Bible’.
Ironically, while catholics will argue that Sola Scriptura leads to heresies and schismatics, Mormonism is the ultimate anti-sola scripture religion. I have also been told by a Oneness pentacostal minister that the bible is not a closed book and that God is still speaking revelations (to the “annointed” ones of course)
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