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To: markomalley

No man/woman/child knows the date. I don’t believe in the Rapture as well (maybe I am wrong but I have searched for the term in Revelations and have never found it). Personally, I think it is man-made and makes people feel better that they won’t be here for when the mud hits the fan. IMHO.


7 posted on 12/03/2010 7:34:33 AM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree

Rapture is real.

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 (New International Version, ©2010)

15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever

Those that remain will endure whats discussed in Revelations.


9 posted on 12/03/2010 7:41:38 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: momtothree

The word “Rapture” isn’t found in most modern Bibles. Then again, neither is the word “Trinity” but that doesn’t stop us from understanding the Triune Nature of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

The Latin root of the word “rapture, which is “rapio” is, however, found in the Latin Vulgate rendering of 1 Thess. 4:17. This is actually a translation of the Koine Greek verb “harpazo” which means “caught up” or “taken away”. This Greek verb is only used in two places in the New Testament, in 1 Thess. 4:17 and Acts 8:39, which I list below.

“And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away (Greek harpazo) Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.”

The idea of the rapture is very easy to see, even if the word “rapture” is not actually used.


15 posted on 12/03/2010 8:02:20 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: momtothree

“I have searched for the term in Revelations...”

You mean “Revelation”? (No “s” there.)


17 posted on 12/03/2010 8:06:23 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: momtothree
No man/woman/child knows the date. I don’t believe in the Rapture as well (maybe I am wrong but I have searched for the term in Revelations and have never found it). Personally, I think it is man-made and makes people feel better that they won’t be here for when the mud hits the fan. IMHO.

Well then, that settles it...There's no Trinity then either...

18 posted on 12/03/2010 8:08:49 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: momtothree

The Rapture is very real! How else would you explain about Elijah llKings 2:11 and Enoch Gen.5:24?
Believing in the Rapture does give me great comfort but not because I think I might escape troubling times here on earth. It gives me comfort because I believe His Word, and as a Christian I will be apart of it whether dead or alive!


19 posted on 12/03/2010 8:12:27 AM PST by spitter
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To: momtothree

The “secret rapture” notion of J. N. Darby and Edward Irving, the fathers of modern dispensationalism, is very popular today, but it is not scriptural.

Scripture talks about believers being gathered to Christ on judgment day, but not about a secret rapture at an earlier time (Matthew 24, 1 Thessalonians 4).

The being “caught up” that is described and taught in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is an event that will take place on the last day.

Matthew 24:41 needs to be understood in its complete context. Earlier in this chapter Jesus said that at his second coming the world will be destroyed (Matthew 24:29). In Matthew 24:31 he said the angels will gather the elect to be with him. Then Jesus indicated that not everyone is among the elect, so as the elect are gathered, their immediate neighbors who are not the elect will not be taken to be with Jesus (Matthew 24:40,41).

In Matthew 24:51, Matthew 25:10-12, Matthew 25:30, and Matthew 25:31-46 (especially v.46) Jesus explained what will happen to the others who are not gathered with the elect.

God Bless


22 posted on 12/03/2010 8:32:48 AM PST by Vegasrugrat
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