So who then are the elect, gathered from heaven in Matt. 24???
29 " Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (Matt 24)Is it your contention that this is speaking of the rapture?
I see from your earlier comments that you misinterpret this passage by placing verse 31 chronologically before vv. 29&30. You said,
Are the elect on the earth??? NOPE...The elect are already in heaven when Jesus returns at the 2nd Coming...How do I know??? The verse says so...God says so...The angels collect the elect from one end of heaven to the other...
There is nothing in the passage that permits that interpretation. There is nothing that permits you to reverse the order of the verses and insert an arbitrary period of time in between.
The fact is that the gathering of the elect happens in same time context as the tribulation and judgment. Only by ignoring the plain rules of biblical hermeneutics can you arrive at a different conclusion. It is this false interpretive method that leads to theories like the secret rapture.