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Text Of The Nauvoo Expositor That Got Joe And Hyrum Killed
The Mormon Curtain ^ | Nov 18, 2010

Posted on 11/28/2010 12:27:04 AM PST by delacoert

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William Law's Wife, Jane
"William Law, a former counselor in the First Presidency, wrote in his 13 May 1844 diary: "[Joseph] ha[s] lately endeavored to seduce my wife, and ha[s] found her a virtuous woman" The Laws elaborated on this in a public meeting shortly thereafter. "The Prophet had made dishonorable proposals to [my] wife . . . under cover of his asserted 'Revelation,' " Law stated. He further explained that Joseph came to the Law home in the middle of the night when William was absent and told Jane that "the Lord had commanded that he should take spiritual wives, to add to his glory." Law then called on his wife to corroborate what he had said. She did so and further explained that Joseph had "asked her to give him half her love; she was at liberty to keep the other half for her husband" Jane refused the Prophet, and according to William Law's 20 January 1887 letter to the Salt Lake Tribune, Smith then considered the couple apostates. "Jane had been speaking evil of him for a long time . . . slandered him, and lied about him without cause," Law reported Smith as saying. "My wife would not speak evil of . . . anyone . . . without cause," Law asserted. "Joseph is the liar and not she. That Smith admired and lusted after many men's wives and daughters, is a fact, but they could not help that. They or most of them considered his admiration an insult, and treated him with scorn. In return for this scorn, he generally managed to blacken their reputations--see the case of . . . Mrs. Pratt, a good, virtuous woman."
("Mormon Polygamy" by Richard S. Van Wagoner, page 44)

In June of 1844, a member of (or members of) Joseph Smith's secret "Council of 50" broke their oaths punishable by death and informed William Law (who was a member of the First Presidency until finding out about Joseph Smith's covert practice ofpolygamy--including the solicitation of the wives of married men) that Joseph Smith was setting up a monarchy with himself already anointed as King. (See Quinn's Mormon Hierarchy for more on this and the extensive documentation which supports it). Law decided to set up a newspaper to expose Smith's treasonable act as well as the secret illegal polygamy he was practicing in private but denying in public. The printing press of the Nauvoo Expositor (as the paper was called) was destroyed under Smith's ordersafter only one issue. This action ultimately led to the unjustified murders of Joseph and Hyrum Smith.

1 posted on 11/28/2010 12:27:06 AM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

pfl


2 posted on 11/28/2010 1:58:18 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: delacoert
Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Sometimes they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, then quote and straw man attack that. Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you, the seeker of truth out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you?

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 


3 posted on 11/28/2010 7:22:07 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender; All
This thread is another great example of how -


4 posted on 11/28/2010 7:28:05 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

If it’s so easy, why can’t anyone do it? Cute photoshop skills, but that’s about it. Have a great Sunday!


5 posted on 11/28/2010 9:40:21 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
So. Let's see. According to you the meanies in the great big, scary, anti-Mormon propaganda machine:
  1. post regurgitated propaganda
  2. employ many different tactics that are quite interesting
  3. use straw man arguments
  4. cherry-pick quotes or other material
  5. misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation (I suppose that's an expanded version of "straw man argument" in #3 above)
  6. audaciously claim they "only" quote our own material.
  7. use deceptive practices
  8. unfairly and inaccurately present Mormon scriptures and quotations of Mormon leaders quote
  9. post scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma
  10. make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before
  11. use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures to antagonize Mormons

If you are doing anything other than playing the Mormon victim card, please explain which of the above is being done with this thread.

6 posted on 11/28/2010 11:24:55 AM PST by delacoert
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To: Paragon Defender; All
If it’s so easy, why can’t anyone do it? Cute photoshop skills, but that’s about it.

Its happening every day PD, people in lds bondage are finding out the truth that the 15 lords don't want them to find out about mormonism and are leaving. Many right here in FR RF. Too bad for your bland posts.

7 posted on 11/28/2010 12:25:17 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: delacoert
Delacoert to Paragon Defender: "If you are doing anything other than playing the Mormon victim card, please explain which of the above is being done with this thread."

 

Mormon apologetic tactic: "Make the posters the issue, not the issues."

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As of December 31, 2009, there were 51,736 LDS missionaries serving in 344 church missions throughout the world. Their work, often in cooperation with local members, resulted in 280,106 convert baptisms in 2009.[12] Author David Stewart points out that the number of convert baptisms per missionary per year has fallen from a high of 8.03 in 1989 to just 4.67 in 2005.[13] He argues that the number of converts would increase if Mormon missionaries made greater efforts in meeting new people; he points out that the average companionship spends only four or five hours per week attempting to meet new people.[13]

How terrible it is that a handful of Christians post a handful of threads per week on FreeRepublic to counter the proselytizing efforts of the missionaries and public relations campaign of the mormon church. Don't you just feel SO sorry that the poor, persecuted mormons aren't able to have their message heard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJqhFm2Zpck


8 posted on 11/28/2010 12:48:48 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: greyfoxx39

Seems like the only thing left to the anti- anti- Mormons left at FR is limp-wristed whininess in the key of victim.


9 posted on 11/28/2010 2:11:12 PM PST by delacoert
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To: delacoert

You really should learn about the meaning of Atonement which is a beautiful thing when they truly understand their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.


11 posted on 11/30/2010 9:14:52 AM PST by restornu (Do unto others as you would have them do unto you!)
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To: restornu; aimhigh; AmericanArchConservative; aMorePerfectUnion; BearRepublic81; Birmingham Rain; ...
Thanks for bumping the thread Resty. :)

Quite often I have seen Mormons accuse ex-mos of fallen and sinful tendencies in these threads.

It's new to me to see a Mormon accuse a never-mo in a similar fashion.

I count it as an honor.

12 posted on 11/30/2010 11:24:11 AM PST by delacoert (The most effective anti-Mormon literature is Mormon literature.)
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To: restornu

I know and completely reject the foul Mormon heresy taught about atonement.

13 posted on 11/30/2010 11:34:57 AM PST by delacoert (The most effective anti-Mormon literature is Mormon literature.)
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14 posted on 11/30/2010 11:35:51 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer)
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To: delacoert; restornu; aimhigh; AmericanArchConservative; aMorePerfectUnion; BearRepublic81; ...

Okay, now I am truly confused.

Who wrote the post at #10? Resty is a lady so I don’t get the post and it is much to eloquent in style and grammar.

Not knocking Resty as she has explained her challenges


15 posted on 11/30/2010 11:37:02 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Paragon Defender

Ok, what in the posted article is not the truth?


16 posted on 11/30/2010 11:40:38 AM PST by svcw (If you put a crouton on a your sundae instead of a cherry, it counts as a salad.)
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To: restornu

I see your stenographer is back at work!


17 posted on 11/30/2010 11:41:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going.)
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To: restornu; aimhigh; AmericanArchConservative; aMorePerfectUnion; BearRepublic81; Birmingham Rain; ...

"There is so much wrong with Mormon theology to begin with (plurality of gods, goddess mother, becoming gods, keeping the commandments to be forgiven, etc.), that it is no surprise to learn that Mormonism lays the emphasis of the redemptive work of Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane instead of the cross."

18 posted on 11/30/2010 11:41:20 AM PST by delacoert (The most effective anti-Mormon literature is Mormon literature.)
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To: Paragon Defender; Godzilla
"If it’s so easy, why can’t anyone do it?"

Says the one who casts scurrilous accusations and never proves the assertions of falsehoods.

There's a word for that ailment.

20 posted on 11/30/2010 12:09:53 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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