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Bankruptcy in the Cathedral (Robert Schuller's Crystal Cathedral files for bankrupcy protection)
Christian Post ^ | 10/23/2010 | R. Albert Mohler Jr.

Posted on 10/23/2010 5:47:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The news that the Crystal Cathedral had filed for bankruptcy protection made for an instant sensation. The church established by Robert Schuller, the very prophet of “Possibility Thinking,” was now forced to seek protection from its creditors, listing $55 million in debt, including a $36 million mortgage.

The Los Angeles Times ran “Cracked Crystal” as a headline. The New York Times reported that the “landmark megachurch” would continue, even as it sought protection from its impatient creditors. From coast to coast, the news traveled fast.

A statement posted on the church’s website dated October 18 was titled, “A New Chapter for the Crystal Cathedral.” It began by stating that recent financial reports “indicate the best cash flow the Ministry has experienced in 10 years.” But, after describing efforts to forestall action by its creditors, the statement read:

As is often the case, negotiations and decisions do not move fast enough to satisfy all parties. A small number of creditors chose to file lawsuits and obtained writs of attachment. Ultimately, the Creditors Committee decided not to extend the moratorium. For these reasons, the Ministry now finds it necessary to seek the protection of a Chapter 11. The Ministry is extremely grateful for the time and effort expended by the Creditors Committee to date, and looks forward to working with them to finalize a payment plan that is fair to all vendors and consistent with our belief as a Ministry and emerge from Chapter 11 as quickly as possible.

Dr. Sheila Schuller Coleman, daughter of founding pastor Robert H. Schuller and the church’s senior pastor, told The New York Times that the church had been unable to cut its budget quickly enough to avert the crisis. The church pledged to continue its worship services and its weekly “Hour of Power” television broadcast, the longest-running religious broadcast in the nation. At the same time, the church has sought to sell unused property and was forced to lay off staff.

Sheila Schuller Coleman told the Los Angeles Times, “Tough times never last, every storm comes to an end. Right now, people need to hear that message more than ever.” She continued, “Everybody is hurting today. We are no exception.” The elder Schuller commented, “Challenging situations are nothing new to our 55-year-old ministry.”

Without doubt, the media impact of the news was guaranteed by the fact that Robert Schuller has been so closely identified with his own version of prosperity theology. How does the ministry built on “Possibility Thinking” declare financial bankruptcy?

Robert H. Schuller founded the Garden Grove Community Church in 1955. Within six years he had led the young church to build a multi-million dollar church facility designed by architect Robert Neutra. In 1981 the church dedicated the famous “Crystal Cathedral,” a massive glass sanctuary designed by Philip Johnson, one of the most famous architects of the twentieth century. The church became familiar to millions of Americans through the broadcasts of the “Hour of Power.”

“Possibility Thinking” was Schuller’s central message. He told his fellow preachers not to worry about repeating themselves in sermons, insisting that every message (he did not like to call his messages “sermons”) must be about the development of a positive mental outlook.

Though ordained in the Reformed Church in America, Schuller minimized historic Christian orthodoxy and stressed instead the message of positive thinking. In his 1982 book, Self-Esteem: The New Reformation, Schuller explicitly replaced the message of salvation from sin with a message of rescue from low self-esteem. In his 2001 autobiography, My Journey, Schuller told of the massive influence of Dale Carnegie and Norman Vincent Peale on his thinking and theology. He told of his decision early in his ministry to replace theology with therapy. “I realized that every sermon I preached (whether formally from the pulpit or casually at a coffee shop) should be designed, not to ‘teach’ or ‘convert’ people, but rather to encourage them, to give them a lift. I decided to adopt the spirit, style, strategy, and substance of a ‘therapist’ in the pulpit.”

Dennis Voskuil, a professor of church history at Schuller’s alma mater, Western Theological Seminary, placed Schuller within the context of the New Thought movement. “Robert Schuller is indirectly related to a long line of popular religionists who have proclaimed the gospel of this-worldly well-being through positive thinking,” he wrote. “His lineage includes such disparate figures as Phineas Parkhurst Quimby, Mary Baker Eddy, Charles and Myrtle Fillmore, Ralph Waldo Trine, and Norman Vincent Peale. While there are many ideological branches on this family tree, all of its members have stressed a utilitarian message of self-help through some form of mind-conditioning.”

After detailing Schuller’s distinctive pilgrimage, Voskuil concluded: “By several standards, then, Schuller is an unconventional evangelical. But while he may be unusual, he is by no means unique, for he is merely one of the most prominent of a large and growing group of evangelicals who are promulgating the gospel of success.”

Those words were written almost thirty years ago. How does the “gospel of success” deal with bankruptcy? The filing of bankruptcy papers would be humbling enough for any ministry, but how does the very epicenter of “Possibility Thinking” deal with the stark reality of financial calamity?

In his 1986 book, Your Church Has a Fantastic Future, Schuller provided what he called “A Possibility Thinker’s Guide to a Successful Church.” The book is a manual for a ministry built on pure pragmatism, sensationalistic promotion, a therapeutic message, and a constant and incessant focus on thinking positively.

His message about money was simple: “No church has a money problem; churches only have idea problems,” he asserted.

In an odd and upside-down way, the news of bankruptcy at the Crystal Cathedral makes that point emphatically. The most significant problem at the Crystal Cathedral is not financial, but theological. The issue is not money, but this ministry’s message. The “gospel of success” is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ, therapy is no substitute for theology, and “Possibility Thinking” is not the message of the Bible.

It turns out that Robert Schuller offers the best analysis of this crisis with his own words. “No church has a money problem; churches only have idea problems.” The theological crisis in Garden Grove is far more significant than the financial crisis.


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bankrupcy; crystalcathedral; robertschuller

1 posted on 10/23/2010 5:47:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yawn! $huller? Moyer? Not much difference.


2 posted on 10/23/2010 5:48:49 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So what is Schuller saying? The masses want the Joel Osteen’s “pray to Jesus for a new BMW” ministry?

Give me a break - he hired Phillip Johnson as the architect. I bet you that added a LOT to the cost. These huge buildings are just a monument to someone’s ego. It has nothing to do with faith.


3 posted on 10/23/2010 5:52:20 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: SeekAndFind

...and so passes another “Feel Good” church...


4 posted on 10/23/2010 5:59:01 PM PDT by Palladin ("Congress--YOU'RE FIRED!!!")
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To: SeekAndFind

That sure helps to spread the Gospel.
/s


5 posted on 10/23/2010 5:59:11 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The Ministry is extremely grateful for the time and effort expended by the Creditors Committee to date, and looks forward to working with them to finalize a payment plan that is fair to all vendors and consistent with our belief as a Ministry and emerge from Chapter 11 as quickly as possible. “

Well, by their theology, Chapter 11 is tantamount to a leveraged buyout by Satan himself. Maybe it’s time to go back to used car sales.


6 posted on 10/23/2010 6:01:01 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Frantzie

THE CRYSTAL CATHEDRAL







7 posted on 10/23/2010 6:05:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

When Schuller was trying to raise funs to build this glass thing, I rememebr one sermon where he kept emphasizing how people 100, 150 years from then would be saying ‘who were these people, who built this magnificent structure?’ Sadly, it isn’t that long now, and folks are asking ‘who were the bozos who believed in the scam to build this thing?’


8 posted on 10/23/2010 6:14:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
I'm sure he has another book to share with the world...



9 posted on 10/23/2010 6:28:20 PM PDT by WebFocus
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To: Palladin
Nothing really new

It has happened before

A charmistc leader, with a flock hooked on "his" (not His) message

One that comes to mind is the failure of Frances Thomas, an ordained alumna of the Miracle Valley Bible College, [founded in 1958 by alcoholic Pentecostal faith healer A.A. Allen] who purchased land north of Palominas (AZ) and established Christ Miracle Healing Center and Church.

That one ended in a hail of bullets.

This one - the Fed caught up with the 'founders': he Securities and Exchange Commission is seeking to freeze the assets of the Center Harbor Christian Church in order to retrieve any ill-gotten gains resulting from the alleged Financial Resources Mortgages Ponzi scheme.

In a U.S. District Court filing, the SEC said that FRM (along with related companies and individuals) transferred $669,000 in assets to the church over the years, even though that money was supposed to be going toward specific investments.

The church is run by Pastor Robert Farah, the father of FRM's president, Scott Farah, who also served as the church's treasurer and deacon. The church's assets are the only known assets of FRM that are not already in bankruptcy court, according to the SEC, though the bankruptcy court’s trustee is seeking to attach the church’s property.

Then there is: Miracles of Prayer Church/Word of Life Christian Center - more fraud

The CC was big on the TV, so has some coverage. These others are footnotes - but show some churchs are short on the Lord and long on lining someones pockets.

< As always, YMMV

10 posted on 10/23/2010 6:30:28 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not crystal, not a cathedral. Other than that, though....


11 posted on 10/23/2010 6:32:34 PM PDT by elisheba
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To: SeekAndFind

About the most positive things i ever saw from the Crystal Cathedral was the humble testimony of Evel Knievel (not that Schuller had much if anything to do with it) . The place needed it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N85-eXlftIY
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/aprilweb-only/115-43.0.html

Praise God.


12 posted on 10/23/2010 6:37:38 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19))
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To: SeekAndFind
New age theology can't stand up to the True gospel, maybe they should have a holy water miracle drink sale! Or better yet bring in Fred Price, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Marilyn Hickey, and all the other charlatans, yeah that's the answer. I mean I guess they didn't have enough faith for prosperity, health and wealth, the guys I mentioned will fix ‘em right up.
Name it and claim it brother!! / end rant / end sarcasm

Seriously, though I will continue to pray for our dear brothers and sisters that their eye's will be opened to the truth, and not fall for the lies that they will undoubtedly hear as to why this church is failing!

13 posted on 10/23/2010 6:42:44 PM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay (Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave!)
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To: SeekAndFind; Gamecock
Dennis Voskuil, a professor of church history at Schuller’s alma mater, Western Theological Seminary, placed Schuller within the context of the New Thought movement. “Robert Schuller is indirectly related to a long line of popular religionists who have proclaimed the gospel of this-worldly well-being through positive thinking,” he wrote. “His lineage includes such disparate figures as Phineas Parkhurst Quimby, Mary Baker Eddy, Charles and Myrtle Fillmore, Ralph Waldo Trine, and Norman Vincent Peale. While there are many ideological branches on this family tree, all of its members have stressed a utilitarian message of self-help through some form of mind-conditioning.

After detailing Schuller’s distinctive pilgrimage, Voskuil concluded: “By several standards, then, Schuller is an unconventional evangelical. But while he may be unusual, he is by no means unique, for he is merely one of the most prominent of a large and growing group of evangelicals who are promulgating the gospel of success.”

Worthy of remembering.

Ping to Gamecock, for the "bestest, most purposeful life right now, don't worry about later" ping list.

14 posted on 10/23/2010 7:14:30 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Bad eschatology drives out good.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Though ordained in the Reformed Church in America, Schuller minimized historic Christian orthodoxy and stressed instead the message of positive thinking.

Reminds me: 16 or 17 years ago, when we were new in town here and looking for a church, we spent a Sunday morning at a small local Reformed Church (I assume RCA). They had, I kid you not, a small "shrine" to Robert Schuller in the narthex.

Weird. And we didn't go back.

In his 1982 book, Self-Esteem: The New Reformation, Schuller explicitly replaced the message of salvation from sin with a message of rescue from low self-esteem.

They sent millions of copies out, to everyone who might conceivably be thought of as a Christian leader. I even got one, probably because I subscribed to Christianity Today (< sarcasm>the predecessor publication to Christianity Astray< /sarcasm>).

Crystal Cathedral also put on, not too much later, a conference based on that book. Someone in the denomination (CRCNA) paid for a bunch of pastors, including ours to go. Don't know who, but I suspect the powers behind Amway, if anybody.

Anyway, nothing much seemed to come of that conference, at least for our church. It might be worth some research, and a footnote in the history of the subversion and decline of late 20th century Am. evangelicalism.

15 posted on 10/23/2010 7:30:42 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Bad eschatology drives out good.")
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Do my eyes deceive me, is the seating on the side a pyramid complete with capstone?


16 posted on 10/23/2010 8:59:33 PM PDT by Hayride
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To: SeekAndFind

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t stow thrones.


17 posted on 10/24/2010 3:07:56 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The name “Crystal Cathedral” has always annoyed me. It may be made of crystal, but it’s not a cathedral—the denomination has no bishops. The name strikes me as a tacky, alliterative example of commercialism such as “Crispy Cream” or “Captain Crunch.” The least they can do is change it back to “Garden Grove Community Church”


18 posted on 10/25/2010 2:36:19 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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