SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 1- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom -Part 1Posted on 10/11/2010 2:57:22 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
The Pentecostal movement is severely divided on the so-called "Toronto Blessing." See the following YouTube videos:
SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 1- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom -Part 1
SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 2- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom -Part 2
Pastor David Wilkerson On Weird Manifestations
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THE STRIKING SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE "TORONTO BLESSING" AND THE SERPENT POWER OF KUNDALINI
Comparison Between the Kundalini Practice and the so-called Toronto Blessing
Not long after the wholesale Kundalini infestation of the Pentecostal movement, some leaders of the Pentecostal movement began a wholesale assault on the "Queen of Heaven":
When the River Burst Against It
By Mark Connell
In a northern city in Argentina, four Catholic men fell to the ground in a most unusual way. Here is an account of the event by Protestant author C. Peter Wagner:
"In the city of Santiago del Estero, a local priest decided to oppose the [Evangelistic] crusade by invading the area with a religious procession. When they arrived, the four strong men carrying the statue of the priest's favorite virgin all fell to the ground under the power of the Spirit and the statue shattered into a thousand pieces. Two of the men spent the night in the hospital and the other two in [Evangelist Carlos] Annacondia's deliverance tent! This is warfare prayer in action."
Wagner, church growth expert and leading teacher of "spiritual warfare prayer," is gleefully describing here the fruit of specific prayer initiated by Protestants in what he unashamedly calls a "laboratory for relating strategic-level spiritual warfare prayer to evangelism." Strategic-level warfare prayer, according to Wagner, is prayer that seeks to defeat the "territorial spirits" ruling an area. (Another name for these demons would be 'strongmen'; hence the description of the four statue bearers as "strong men" has additional significance here. These men were part of a demonic procession. This point will become clearer as the facts are presented.) The laboratory Wagner prefers to test out this prayer technique in is the country of Argentina, and he is obviously delighted with the outcome. 'Revival' has hit Argentina says Wagner, and at last the Gospel is being preached to the people there. The gospel is in, idolatrous processions are out.
Wagner relates that before the Falkland war of 1982, "Argentines had been widely known as being indifferent or resistant to the gospel." Another writer relates how, because of the war," It was the sorrow and suffering of our nation that prepared hearts for the gospel." After the war the people sensed that "The church had failed them, Peronism had failed them. They were ready to try something different." And so they did.
Along with increased levels of Spiritism, Mormonism and other cults, Wagner says great evangelical growth occurred in Argentina. He suggests this evangelical growth was the result of both warfare prayer and the ministry of Carlos Annocondia, a wealthy businessman turned evangelist. It was outside one of Annocondia's revival services that the Spirit overcame the men in the procession and the statue was smashed.
While this single episode may be amusing to a Protestant with an aversion to Marian piety, it should cause Catholics to take notice. Evidently the lesson Wagner would have us learn here is that, at least in Argentina, the Holy Spirit does not approve of Marian processions. In fact, He disapproves so strongly that He sent two of the men in this procession to the hospital. Although Argentina was over 90% Catholic in 1974, C. Peter Wagner doesn't flinch when he writes that there was "little effective evangelization" in the Argentinean city of Adrogue before 1974.
There are currently people worldwide using Wagner's techniques to pray directly against some of the most ancient pietistic practices of both the Catholic and Orthodox Churches. As hard as this may be to believe in this age of ecumenism, there is a war being waged in South America and the tools of this battle are spreading worldwide.
Prayer campaigns with names such as "Operation Queen's Domain" have been launched worldwide. C. Peter Wagner has written that:
"we consider the Queen of Heaven as a chief principality commissioned by Satan to keep unbelievers in spiritual darkness, and we have identified ancient Ephesus as one of her principal power centres where she formerly manifested in the person of Diana. We called it the "palace" because the temple of Diana (Artemis) in Ephesus syncretised, among other things, ancient Cybele worship, the Moon Goddess (Sin), and allegiance to Mammon(the temple was the first historical prototype of what we know today as the World Bank). Not surprisingly, Ephesus was also the site chosen by the church of that day for the Council of Ephesus in 431 AD which officially declared that Mary is the "mother of God." [Emphasis added]Wagner has recently been installed as the "Presiding Apostle" and will help guide a worldwide convocation of restored Apostles who seek to re-establish God's Government on this earth. God's Government (Five fold ministry including true Apostles and Prophets) is not properly in place at this time, claims Wagner, hindering true revival.
Elsewhere, Protestant pastors in San Nicholas, Argentina, under the leadership of Prophetic Intercessor Cindy Jacobs, have declared war on the Queen of Heaven. Mrs. Jacobs did this upon receiving direct instructions from God.
Around the world, spiritual 'maps' are being drawn up detailing the 'spiritual strongholds' in cities. 'Prayer-walkers' are going through many cities, perhaps circling your Churches, Cathedrals and Marian sites, 'pulling down' the demonic influences of a what they see as a Gospel-less and corrupt Catholicism.
Like a river, this movement has flowed from South America and threatens to weaken any house whose foundation is not sure. In the Northern Hemisphere, the 'fruit' of this offensive bears names like the Toronto Blessing, the Brownsville Revival or, simply, The River.
Men and women who deny the Real Presence in the Eucharist and have no intention of submitting to St. Peter's successor lead these ongoing Christian services which claim supernatural visitations from God complete with manifestations such as: barking like dogs, roaring like lions, howling, uncontrollable laughter, orgasms, women laying on the floor with legs spread giving birth to 'ministries', shaking, being glued to the floor, deep bowing, literally vomitting up demons, gold dust falling from the ceiling, angel feathers falling from the sky, gold teeth and fillings, prophetic utterances, visitations by angelic beings, mist, fog, spiritual drunkenenss. The list could go on infinitely, because there simply is no limit on what will be accepted at these meetings. Everything is permissible in the River except the use of reason.
Almost beyond belief, Catholic Charismatic leaders are willing to share the stage with these same River leaders and are willing to promote an event with these people as the 'most significant assembly of Christians' in this Jubilee year. Leaders such as Father Michael Scanlan, Ralph Martin, Bishop Sam Jacobs, Father Tom Forrest and many others will encourage Catholics to sit under the ministry of men and women who regularly pray against the truths which Saints have died to protect. Charity demands that one assume these Charismatic leaders do not understand what C. Peter Wagner, Cindy Jacobs and the other River leaders believe and teach. Perhaps, then, a look might be beneficial for all?
Part Two of "A River Burst Against It" coming soon.
©Copyright Mark Connell 2000
Here's more on C. Peter Wagner's Operation Queen's Domain:
Operation Queen's Domain
WORLDWIDE PRAYER MOVEMENT FOCUSES INTERCESSION ON 40/70 WINDOWEditorial note: the worldwide prayer movement will focus it's prayer strategy for the next five years on the 40/70 Window, the area between 40 and 70 degrees north of the Equator, from the western tip of Ireland to the eastern tip of Siberia. In this contribution Peter Wagner explains the background of this new prayer initiative named "Operation Queens Domain".
WORLDWIDE PRAYER MOVEMENT FOCUSES INTERCESSION ON 40/70 WINDOW
Our October 1 "Celebration Ephesus" was a magnificent event from every conceivable perspective. The Holy Spirit visited us with an anointing of compassion and generosity and we were able to leave over $75,000 US for the Turkish Protestant Earthquake Relief Committee. Undoubtedly you have seen many detailed reports of the happening.
One of the most frequent questions I was asked during the event was, "What are you going to do after this?" I honestly had no answer. Celebration Ephesus was a one-of-a-kind occasion. Once the euphoria wore off however, God's revelation for the next step began to come. I am now calling prayer leaders and intercessors worldwide to move from Operation Queen's Palace to Operation Queen's Domain over the next 5 years, 2000-2004.
What we might call the "Queen's Domain" is an imaginary geographical area between 40 and 70 degrees north of the Equator, the "40/70 Window." It runs from the western tip of Ireland to the eastern tip of Siberia. It covers twelve time zones from Greenwich Mean Time to the International Date Line. On one side, the waves of the Atlantic Ocean roll up through the Bay of Biscay and on the other side the waves of the Pacific Ocean roll up through the Bering Sea.
In the 40/70 Window we find Europe, Eurasia, the Northern Mediterranean, Russia, Armenia, the Balkans, Turkey and the Turkic Belt, the "stans" of the former USSR, the ancient Silk Road running from Greece to China, Mongolia, the Xinjiang Province of China, North Korea, the Hokkaido Island of Japan just to name a few of the incredibly important geographical regions.
A whole cluster of considerations have helped us to understand, at least at this preliminary stage, why God might choose to focus our attention on the 40/70 Window. Our knowledge of the 10/40 Window increased exponentially during the 1990s, and I expect the same thing will happen with the 40/70 Window over the next few years.
One advantage that we have now, over what we had 10 years ago, is that the World Prayer Centre is well equipped with the technical infrastructure to serve as an unprecedented communications hub for researchers, intercessors, and prayer leaders. The Observatory unit at the WPC, is compiling an enormous spiritual mapping data base, and throughout Operation Queen's Domain they will be able to provide the strategic ongoing and up-to-date information that we need for informed intercession much more rapidly than in the past. Our prayers will therefore be directed toward much sharper targets than ever before.
Operation Queen's Palace concluded in Turkey, the recognised spawning grounds for worldwide goddess worship. We called it "Queen's" Palace because we consider the Queen of Heaven as a chief principality commissioned by Satan to keep unbelievers in spiritual darkness, and we have identified ancient Ephesus as one of her principal power centres where she formerly manifested in the person of Diana. We called it the "palace" because the temple of Diana (Artemis) in Ephesus syncretised, among other things, ancient Cybele worship, the Moon Goddess (Sin), and allegiance to Mammon(the temple was the first historical prototype of what we know today as the World Bank). Not surprisingly, Ephesus was also the site chosen by the church of that day for the Council of Ephesus in 431 AD which officially declared that Mary is the "mother of God." [Empasis added] Turkey and Ephesus area included in both the 10/40 Window and the 40/70 Window, so we are looking at Turkey as our principal hinge nation. An incredible love for Turkey among believers worldwide was ignited by Celebration Ephesus.
The Queen of Heaven has deeply penetrated and corrupted much of the traditional Christianity of the 40/70 Window. Hard-core idolatry has become a major problem in many churches throughout much of the 40/70 Window and it constitutes an enormous barrier to lost people being saved. Latin America was in a similar situation up through the 1950s, but the spiritual climate there has changed radically.
The 40/70 Window is the greatest area of dormant Christianity in today's world. Revival reports have recently been emerging from many different areas, but notably few of them are coming out of the 40/70 Window. The 40/70 Window contains more unsaved Christians than any other part of the world.
The 40/70 window is the heart of non-Arab Turkic Islam, which draws considerable spiritual power from the Moon Goddess, one of the manifestations of the Queen of Heaven. In a recent AD2000 report, Luis Bush has drawn our attention to the "Turkic Belt," also called the "35/45 Window," with nations clustered along the ancient Silk Road from Greece to China. Signs of spiritual breakthrough in the Turkic Belt, which we include in the 40/70 Window, point toward a kairos moment, demanding fervent and concentrated prayer. For example, in 1990 there were only around 1600 believers in the Turkic Belt, but by 1999 the number was over 43,000!
Several International leaders have been divinely drawn to the 40/70 Window. A few months ago I asked Roger Mitchell of U.K. to undertake coordination of all of Europe instead of simply coordinating Northern Europe as before. Roger has been one of the most dedicated and proactive of all the regional coordinators. Harold Caballeros, the equally effective coordinator in Spanish-Speaking Latin America, has resigned that position in order to focus his energies on Spain, a key nation of the 40/70 Window. Cindy Jacobs has also prioritized Spain on her ministry agenda for the next ten years. Gerda Leithgob has been led to concentrate on Poland. Ana Mendez and Marty Cassady have an unusual burden for Italy and Greece. Alice Smith has joined them in the focus on Italy. Cindy Jacobs has recently received words about ministry in Russia, including an assignment for Russian Jews. Martha Lucia of Christian International has received prophetic instructions to target the 40/70 Window.
Switzerland, considered by many the centre of world finance, is in the 40/70 Window, and many are discerning a close relationship between the Queen of Heaven and the spirit of Mammon.
The 40/70 Window hosts Brussels, Belgium, the headquarters of the United Nations where the promotion of the worship of Gaia or Mother Earth has become widely known. Some feel that she, another disguise of the Queen of Heaven, should become the recognised deity of the human race.
The 40/70 Window is a site of many of God's fresh starts: the Garden of Eden, Mt. Ararat, Ur of the Chaldees, Antioch, Wittenberg, Aldersgate, and others. We believe that another fresh start is on the horizon for the 40/70 Window.
Without knowing how important it would soon become in Operation Queen's Domain, over 200 highly-trained intercessors moved into the 40/70 Window at the time of what some occult practitioners called the "culminating spectacle of the heavens," namely the solar eclipse of August 11, 1999. Seventeen prayer journey teams moved out from the World Prayer Centre, while an equal number joined them from U.K. They were strategically located in England, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, Bosnia, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Greece, and Turkey, as well as in Iraq and Israel of the 10/40 Window. This high-level prayer initiative has set in place a very sound spiritual infrastructure for Operation Queen's Domain.
It must be kept in mind that as we concentrate our prayer initiatives on the 40/70 Window, the nations and regions of the world which trace their cultural roots to peoples of the 40/70 Window will be directly affected. This means that nations like U.S.A, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Latin America, the Philippines, and other places will benefit immensely from Operation Queen's Domain.
Our prayers for the lost people in the 10/40 Window over the past decade have been incredibly productive. At the beginning of the decade the four most significant anti-Christian blocks were Communism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Islam. Communism is no longer that significant, Buddhism is on the run, Hinduism is badly battered, and Islam has deep cracks that were not there previously. A large percentage of the unreached people groups now have church planting teams on site. We must continue to pray for and to evangelise the 10/40 Window, but it is now time to shift the primary target for strategic-level warfare to the 40/70 Window.
Much of the 40/70 Window is exactly where Latin America was fifty years ago. Now we are seeing revival fires burning in much of Latin America, and the Queen of Heaven is loosening her grip. We believe that in a much shorter time than that her grip on the 40/70 window will also be broken, and revival fires will be burning brightly from Ireland to Siberia.[Emphasis added.]
C. Peter Wagner International Director World Prayer Centre
Source: Global Harvest Ministries
And here's more on their coordinated attack on "the stronghold of the Queen of Heaven":
For more on this subject, see Operation Queen's Palace and OVERCOMING THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN.Breakthrough in Argentina
From, "The Voice of God" by Cindy JacobsItalics in original. This document provided for educational purposes.
A couple of months ago while I was writing this book, I was asked by Harvest Evangelism to go to the city of San Nicholas, Argentina. Harvest Evangelism is headed by Ed Silvoso, one of the foremost authorities on the subject of reaching entire cities for God. His book That None Should Perish is a classic on prayer evangelism. He tells in his book how as a 13-year-old boy, he would ride his bicycle to the western shore of the Parana River, and for a precious hour he would meet with the Lord and pray for his skeptical city of 100,000 souls. But it seemed as though no one was interested in becoming a Christian
Some 35 years later, Ed's heart still longed for a breakthrough in his home city. The pastors in the city had been in disunity, and strife had been rampant. San Nicholas was a tough place to try to pastor a church.
In the fall of 1994, as I was reading Ed's book, the Lord spoke to me, "Cindy, I want you to go to San Nicholas. I'm going to answer the prayers Ed prayed when he was a 13-year-old boy. In addition, my people are crying out to me and San Nicholas is a very special city." [Emphasis added]
As I traveled to the city with Dan and Elaine Jue, missionaries with Harvest Evangelism, they shared with me how San Nicholas was known as "the graveyard of evangelists." That was certainty a faith-building bit of information! But upon our arrival, I discovered some good news. The intercessors and some of the pastors had been on a 40-day Daniel fast (i.e., vegetables and water), and it was to end the second day of the meetings. (I was only there for a two-day seminar, co-teaching with Ed Delph.)
We met for the first session at the Harvest Evangelism campground outside the city. It was so packed that people were standing outside looking into the windows! I felt led to share about the redemptive purpose God had in mind for the city of San Nicholas. By redemptive purpose, I mean the reason God created the city; and His plans and destiny in the Kingdom for it.
The name Nicholas comes from the Greek word nikao and means overcomer or victor. The word nikao is used in two significant places in Scripture related to prophetic warfare. First in Luke 11:22, Jesus Himself talked about overcoming the strongman. The second reference is found in Revelation 2 and 3 and is addressed to the churches in the cities concerning their need to overcome. A particularly powerful promise was given in Revelation 2:26 to the church in Thyatira, "And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations" (italics added).
I believe it is no mistake that the name Nicholas was given to this city in Argentina. From the looks of things, however, the city was not experiencing the victory God meant for it. Why was this? The pastors were working as hard as they could and loved the Lord.
As the local leaders studied the city, one major thing was apparent. A stronghold of the Queen of Heaven was present in the city. This demonic spirit that counterfeits as Mary had appeared there and told the locals she wanted a grand cathedral built. People came from all over the world to worship her there. Many of the walls of the city were painted with pictures of her, declaring it to be her city.
As I read the Scripture from Jeremiah 7:16-19 to the meeting, about how the worship of the Queen of Heaven brings God's wrath upon a city, it was very quiet. I was thinking how similar their situation was to the city of Rosario, which I wrote about in the chapter dealing with strongholds in the book Breaking Strongholds in Your City. Rosario had also been given to the Queen of Heaven. Explaining that the Queen of Heaven was not the Virgin Mary and that Mary would be very unhappy to be given the title of a demonic power brought great understanding to the local leaders.[Empasis added]
That night the church, held in a theater, was packed. The pastors came prepared by the Holy Spirit. This is how I led the meeting:
I taught on God's purpose for the city.
We looked at the stronghold of the Queen of Heaven. It seems wherever we have found this kind of idolatrous worship, the city's economy has dropped dramatically. This had happened in San Nicholas. It used to have a big factory that brought large amounts of revenue. After the appearance of the Queen, poverty hit the city; the factory closed down and many were out of work. This directly correlates to Deuteronomy 28 that lists the curses that come from idolatry. [Emphasis added]
It is irresponsible to take people into spiritual battle without—as much as possible—making sure the "holes in their armor" are closed. Such "holes" are openings where Satan has legal right to hit them because of sin issues such as unforgiveness, relational problems between churches and so on. We had taken care of these issues earlier in the day by taking time for repentance. During this time, the pastors had knelt down and wept because of their strife and division. I'll never forget one pastor who prayed, "Perhaps this is why the fire has gone out in my heart, It is because I have spoken against my brothers."
Another area we covered was personal generational sin. Repentance was needed for those who had participated in the worship of idols or their ancestors. We had to shut the door to anything Satan would try to do to "backlash" against them after we prayed. This was a major spiritual battle and I had the fear of the Lord upon my life as I led them into war.[Emphasis added]
That day, the leaders repented of various kinds of generational sin: sins of witchcraft, consulting occultic healers, reading the astrological forecasts, participation in secret societies such as freemasonry, the worship of the Queen of Heaven and other idols. I then prayed that God would break the curses of poverty, insanity, infirmity and others that come with such worship. (Again refer to Deut. 28.)
The last step was to ask the pastors to come forward to repent for the sin of the worship of the Queen of Heaven in their city. Many came to the platform. I did not pray because it was not my place of authority to do so. [Emphasis added.] Those who live in the city are responsible for the sin. Also, the pastors and spiritual leaders are the "spiritual gatekeepers" for their city and they have great power in the Spirit to deal with the city's strongholds. The pastors knelt as did everyone else in the church. This kind of humility is important because it is part of the 2 Chronicles 7:14 pattern. A holy hush filled the room. Many began to weep as the pastors chose who would pray and represent them.
After the leaders of San Nicholas repented for idolatry and the worship of the Queen of Heaven, they stood to their feet and with loud voices of victory, entered into their redemptive destiny as overcomers! They proclaimed before the host of heaven, the demons in hell and those assembled that Jesus was Lord over San Nicholas. They pronounced that it was God's city and that it did not belong to the Queen of Heaven. To use Neil Anderson's terminology, they renounced the hold of the Queen of Heaven and announced the Lordship of Jesus Christ over the city! [Emphasis added] They took away the keys and legal right the prince of darkness had used to lock up their city spiritually. Chills ran down my back that night as these repentant people stood up in the power and authority given them through the King of kings.
As I looked around the church, my spirit discerned myriads of angels with bright swords warring over the city. Hosts and hosts of mighty warring angels fought back the dark angels surrounding the strongman until at last he left in defeat.[Empasis added]
At the end of the service, the Holy Spirit gave me a prophetic word that a businessman attending the meeting was going to start putting signs all over the city stating, "San Nicholas, where Jesus is Lord!" I exhorted the people to paint the outer walls of their homes with this declaration, thus welcoming the King into their city. Later, a young leader came to me and said he felt he was the one who would lead the campaign to fill the city with signs declaring the lordship of Christ. Already, I could tell the anointing of the overcomer was filling his heart.
After the service, some of the leaders asked me, "Cindy, how will we know that the power of this demonic strongman is broken?"
I answered, "People will not worship her here anymore. She will leave." [Emphasis added]
Exactly one week later; on November 25, 1994, the headline of the San Nicholas newspaper read, "The Virgin has moved to Tucum'an." Tucum'an is about 600 miles away from San Nicholas. Evidently, it was said she appeared in the freezer of a poor peasant. One of the Harvest missionaries, Dan Jue, put it this way in his report:
The demon behind the virgin found things so hot in San Nicholas that it literally went into a deep freeze. The spiritual significance is that the demonic stronghold in San Nicholas has been battered down! The grip of the forces of darkness has been broken! This is really a new day for this area! Gloria a Dios! The city is in the process of being transformed from the city of Maria (Queen of Heaven) to the city of Jesus Christ. [Emphasis added] You may find it strange that a Baptist should wax so mystically over what has occurred in the past few weeks in San Nicholas. But I have no other explanation except that God has done something supernatural in this area. Hallelujah to the King of kings!
That same month, the pastors of San Nicholas got together. Usually, only about three pastors would come and conduct a sort of business meeting. This time it was different. Twenty-one pastors came and they prayed for each other and blessed the work of God in each other's churches. Pastors who had been bitter enemies were hugging and praying for reconciliation.
Remember Luke 11:22? The stronger (the Church of Jesus Christ) overcame the strongman, took from him all the armor in which he trusted, and divided his spoils! The city of San Nicholas is fulfilling its destiny and becoming a city of God.
Reference: The Voice of God by Cindy Jacobs
Finally, one must also consider the tendency of some Pentecostalists to discount Marian apparitions as UFO encounters. See the Wikipedia entry, The Fatima UFO Hypothesis
Scripture is very clear about the demonic attack on the Queen of Heaven in the End Times:
Revelation 12 (New International Version)
Revelation 12
The Woman and the Dragon
1A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. 4His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born. 5She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
"Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ.
For the accuser of our brothers,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
11They overcame him
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.
12Therefore rejoice, you heavens
and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short."13When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach. 15Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring—those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
Clearly, there is a demonic attack against the Queen of Heaven. One must discern whether the recent manifestations of this attack within the Pentecostal movement are attributable to a Hindu Kundalini spirit unleashed at the Toronto Blessing which has subsequently infested much of the worldwide Pentecostal leadership and rank-and-file members.
Until a year or so ago on FR, I had never heard that UFOs were behind Fatima. I dismissed it according to the source. I had no idea they preached that nonsense. I guess that’s why these certain groups are more threatened by Mary than say Islam or Hindu.
Who is your teacher?
The Magnificat is a hymn of praise to God.
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The Prayer Of Mary My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, Magnificat anima mea Dominum; |
I live in Minneapolis -- what'd she say about the I-35 W bridge collapse just outside of downtown Minneapolis back in 2007?
Cheers!
I'm confused. You mean Dustin Hoffman had a sex change?
Cheers!
Verb
S: (v) pray (address a deity, a prophet, a saint or an object of worship; say a prayer) "pray to the Lord"
S: (v) beg, implore, pray (call upon in supplication; entreat) "I beg you to stop!"
Notice 2 definitions. This is where some noncatholics get it wrong. You think when you pray it can only be to a Deity.
Wrong!
pray (pr)
v. prayed, pray·ing, prays
v.intr.
1. To utter or address a prayer or prayers to God, a god, or another object of worship.
2. To make a fervent request or entreaty.
v.tr. 1. To utter or say a prayer or prayers to; address by prayer.
2. To ask (someone) imploringly; beseech. Now often used elliptically for I pray you to introduce a request or entreaty: Pray be careful.
3. To make a devout or earnest request for: I pray your permission to speak.
4. To move or bring by prayer or entreaty.
[Middle English preien, from Old French preier, from Latin precr, from prec, pl. of *prex, prayer; see prek- in Indo-European roots.]
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
pray [preɪ]
vb
1. (when intr, often foll by for; when tr, usually takes a clause as object) to utter prayers (to God or other object of worship) we prayed to God for the sick child
2. (when tr, usually takes a clause as object or an infinitive) to make an earnest entreaty (to or for); beg or implore she prayed to be allowed to go leave, I pray you
3. (tr) Rare to accomplish or bring by praying to pray a soul into the kingdom
interj Archaic I beg you; please pray, leave us alone
[from Old French preier, from Latin precārī to implore, from prex an entreaty; related to Old English fricgan, Old High German frāgēn to ask, Old Norse fregna to enquire]
Here is a couple of excerpts on Charismatic errors from the late Fr William Most...
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/most/getwork.cfm?worknum=41
“Some groups also reject devotion to Our Lady - a sure sign that something is very basically wrong. Others reject things the Church promotes, such as the Miraculous Medal or the Scapular - again, a sign of something very wrong. Still others say they do not need the Church, they have a direct line to the Holy Spirit. This is seriously in error. Some groups have a rigid authoritarian structure - even though no one of them has a valid claim to authority. The authorities are answerable to no one - this is very dangerous.
There is also a danger of excess emotionalism: normally God does give consolations (satisfactions in religion) to those who make the second conversion (begin to get very serious about pleasing God). But this does not normally last indefinitely: St. Francis de Sales warns that if it did, they might love the consolations of God rather than the God of consolations.(Cf. his Introduction to the Devout Life 4.13).”
“Charismatic graces are not aimed at making the recipient holy: they are for some other benefit, usually for the community. There are two groups, ordinary (the gift of being a good parent, good teacher, etc. These are given widely and freely) and extraordinary: the gift of tongues, of healing, of doing other kinds of miracles, etc.
God’s principles are very different in the two categories. In sanctifying graces, He offers all without limit, since in the covenant, He has accepted the infinite price of redemption, and therefore owes it to Himself to give without limit. The only limit is imposed by us, by our lack of receptivity.
But with charismatic graces His principle is: The spirit gives what He wills, when and where He wills. Having these gifts does not even presuppose the state of grace. There is a frightening text in Mt 7:22-23: “Many will says to me on that day: Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out devils in your name, and work many miracles in your name? And then I will confess to them that I never knew you. Depart from me you workers of iniquity.”
So it is clear: there is need of checking in every instance to see if the gift comes from a good or an evil spirit, or just from suggestion. Hence St. Paul in 1 Cor 12 said that when they were pagans, they went to dumb idols whenever they were driven by their leaders. So he needs to tell them: If a person is speaking in the Spirit of God, he will not say “Cursed be Jesus.” Pagans often cursed the god who had gotten inside them. Also, no one can confess that Jesus is the Lord (divine) except by the Holy Spirit.
St. Paul does not mention suggestion, but of course we should. Many charismatics today are reluctant to admit that any checking is needed. They just say: Look it is what St. Paul talked about. But as we saw, Paul warned about the evil spirit. Some years ago I wrote a long series of columns for National Catholic Register, on the movement. Many letters came in. One woman on the west coast told me she had friends who knew several languages. A group of them went to a charismatic meeting, and were able to understand the tongues. They found some were praising God beautifully - but others were cursing Him. This is why St. Paul in 1 Cor 14 insists that at a meeting of the community no more than two should speak in tongues, and then only if there is someone who has the different gift of interpreting the tongues. The reason is clear: they may be cursing God!
Regrettably, many charismatics ignore these rules from St. Paul. They have more than two, they have even hundreds at a time. They try to say it is one thing to speak, another to pray in tongues. But Paul makes no such distinction and with good reason, as the experience just related makes clear.”
“The great St. Teresa of Avila, who had so much experience with extraordinary gifts, would be horrified. In her Interior Castle 6.9 she warns souls that when they learn or hear that God is giving souls extraordinary graces, “you must never ask or desire Him to lead you by that road.” She goes on to explain why: First, it shows a lack of humility; second, one leaves self open to “great danger because the devil needs only to see a door left a bit ajar to enter; third, “when a person has a great desire, he convinces himself he is seeing or hearing what he desires.” She adds that there are many holy people who have never had such things, and others who have them, and are not holy. This of course agrees with the warning of Our Lord Himself in Mt 7:22-23.”
Teófilo just pinged me to the following post on another thread:
To: Teófilo; Alex Murphy; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...Given that Fatima was a very manipulated, shaped, mostly moderately common series of UFO incidents and manifestations anyway . . .
as well documented by two excellent Portugese researchers with access to the RCC’s long secreted archives in Portugal on the incidents . . . and with then surviving witnesses . . .
and the Vatican’s incredible control and man-handling of the children involved from an early age . . .
it is entirely plausible to me that
that many lies have been told about the whole thing by those people.
The truth can be pretty dogged, even in this dispensational era. Eventually, the total truth will be outted by God Almighty.
It seems that Mary/Fatima and their white hankys are far more important to the Vatican Institution than
THE TRUTH.
What a surprise.
/s
5 posted on Friday, October 08, 2010 3:07:05 AM by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
I think the Pentecostal's greatest fear is that there is a REAL Third Secret of Fatima that has not yet been revealed, and that it will lead to a massive resurgence of Traditional Catholicism when it is revealed.
Therefore, they are trying to get out ahead of that and cut it off by making up these bizarre theories that Fatima is just a UFO phenomenon, and they post threads like this one: UFO Disclosure 2010: Vatican Secrets And The Coming Hoax
If the global Pentecostal movement has indeed been infiltrated by the Kundalini spirit (which I am absolutely convinced is the case), expect to see more of these demonic attacks against Catholicism and Marian devotion, as per Revelation 12.
LOL! What a bad movie Too! Ishtar!
Frankly, it was the Bonnke connection to Creme’s “Lord Matraiya” that sparked my interest in studying this further. It was one of the first things I discovered in this investigation. Creme’s “Lord Matraiya” is an anti-christ wannabee with definite connections to new age demonic activity.
I think that was exactly the source of this Kundalini infestation in the Pentecostal movement, and it has spread from Bonnke to the vast majority of Pentecostal leaders via this Kandalini impartation chain.
Great!
Then it will be very easy to refute.
Please start by refuting the claims in the videos.
What *IS* the connection between Bonnke and Creme?
When did they run across one another, ansd where?
Did Bonnke invite Creme to accompany him? Did Creme "annoint" Bonnke before his ministry took off, or sometime later?
I remember seeing Bonnke on the East Coast sometime in the mid-90's, and neither saw nor heard anything of the sort described in this article.
Please provide a link.?
Cheers!
NEW HAVEN, Conn. (CN) - A woman says she suffered traumatic brain injuries and lost her sense of smell and taste after falling over backwards while "resting in the spirit" at a Catholic Charismatic Revival healing service. She sued the Hartford Diocese in Superior Court.
Dorothy Kubala says the accident happened while Fr. Robert Rousseau was "performing a healing service for members of the general public" at the St. Augustine Church in North Branford in January 2009.
Kubala says she "approached the altar, was prayed over, and 'Rested in the Spirit,' causing her to fall backwards and hit the floor with the back of her head."
She claims her injuries were caused by the priest's "failing to follow protocols, rules and procedures as outlined by defendants, the Hartford Archdiocese and St. Augustine Church."
Kubala says the priest should have had parishioners sit or kneel while he prayed over them, that that he "failed to provide a safe, soft surface for attendees, including the plaintiff, to fall to, if and when they fell or 'rested in the spirit.'"
She adds that the priest also failed to warn her "about the possibility of falling or 'resting in the sprit'," and says he "failed to choose 'Catchers' who were physically and mentally fit to exercise their duty.
Kubala says she fell over backwards and bonked her head, suffered injuries that include "traumatic brain injury that resulted in a permanent and total loss of smell ... and partial loss of taste," plus a hemorrhagic contusion, a concussion, injuries to her spine, pain in her jaw, and acute anxiety.
She seeks monetary damages. She is represented by John Cirello.
Ignorance of the facts
and/or
disbelief of the facts . . .
will
at some point . . . be no excuse.
Unmitigated balderdash.
Frankly, I do not know. I do know this false spirit has spread throughout the Pentecostal movement, and part of its fruit is the attack on the Queen of Heaven foretold in Revelations 12. It might have started with Bonnke (that's my intuition) or it might have started with some of the former New Age practitioners who are now Pentecostal leaders.
Or it may have been the overwhelming urge of certain Pentecostal leaders to witness and impart ever greater (and thus more financially lucrative) manifestations of "the spirit."
Those who serve Mammom, not God, in the Prosperity Gospel wing of Pentecostalism are not able to discern between real gifts of the Holy Spirit and false spirits such as this Kundalini spirit.
In the end, it was this obsession with "Prosperity" which caused certain Pentecostal leaders to lower their guard and permit this Kundalini infestation of their movement.
Great!
Then it will be very easy to refute.
Please start by refuting the claims in the videos. Please note that these videos are done by Pentecostal leaders, not Catholics.
Agreed. The posts are so stuffed with multiple layers of ignorance, prejudice, bigotry and flat-out lies that it would take a year to unravel them all.
But I will note that the first thing churches scream throughout history when people actually, personally experience the Holy Spirit without their prior approval is "demons!"
Which, of course, always makes it that much easier for real demons to hide behind the status quo - religious or otherwise.
The Goddess Chiti taught by Baba Muktananda is not a demon (as incorrectly cited above). She is, rather, Chitishakti Kundalini, which is a name for nothing less than the Holy Spirit itself, which in the East is recognized as the Feminine Power of God. And thoughout history, this Holy Spirit is the Purifier that has been described by saints of all times and places. For example, three seconds on Google gives this excellent example of the (non-demonic) purification process:
Teresa of Ávila (from Wikipedia):
Around 1556, various friends suggested that her newfound knowledge was diabolical, not divine. She began to inflict various tortures and mortifications of the flesh upon herself. But her confessor, the Jesuit Saint Francis Borgia, reassured her of the divine inspiration of her thoughts. On St. Peter's Day in 1559, Teresa became firmly convinced that Jesus Christ presented himself to her in bodily form, though invisible. These visions of Jesus Christ lasted almost uninterrupted for more than two years. In another vision, a seraph drove the fiery point of a golden lance repeatedly through her heart, causing an ineffable spiritual-bodily pain.
“I saw in his hand a long spear of gold, and at the iron's point there seemed to be a little fire. He appeared to me to be thrusting it at times into my heart, and to pierce my very entrails; when he drew it out, he seemed to draw them out also, and to leave me all on fire with a great love of God. The pain was so great, that it made me moan; and yet so surpassing was the sweetness of this excessive pain, that I could not wish to be rid of it...”
This vision was the inspiration for one of Bernini's most famous works, the Ecstasy of St Teresa at Santa Maria della Vittoria in Rome. The memory of this episode served as an inspiration throughout the rest of her life, and motivated her life-long imitation of the life and suffering of Jesus, epitomized in the motto usually associated with her: "Lord, either let me suffer or let me die."
Note that I am not saying that demons are unreal. But discrimination and humility is required for deep understanding of spiritual purification, and God is certainly not limited by the inabilities of the human mind to fathom divine process.
However, no one can watch these videos
SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 1- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom -Part 1
SHOCKING DOCUMENTARY 2- False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING - Andrew Strom -Part 2
Pastor David Wilkerson On Weird Manifestations
And still claim with a straight face that these are valid manifestations of the Holy Spirit.
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