[NYer]

Sometimes it is necessary to state the obvious.

[Gunslingr3]

Now suppose a young man wanted a young lady to love him. Suppose he threatened to punish her with smoke, and fire, and brimstone for eternity for withholding that love. Presto! She “loves” him! Is it love? No, it is fear. Love, to be love, has to be free.

[Cyber Ninja]

One man's obvious is another man's "I did not know that."

As an agnostic, what do I not get?

Although, this thread brings me closer.