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To: Alex Murphy

One of my saints from early child-hood is St. Martin De Porres - a black saint who I talk to daily.

I can’t help but wonder if they’re a “social justice” crew, not unlike the Chicago group, who self-secregate for perhaps doubious purposes otherwise why not integrate like everyone else.


4 posted on 08/03/2010 1:49:37 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville
One of my saints from early child-hood is St. Martin De Porres - a black saint who I talk to daily. I can’t help but wonder if they’re a “social justice” crew, not unlike the Chicago group, who self-secregate for perhaps doubious purposes otherwise why not integrate like everyone else.

I could see that, and we are talking about Oregon which is liberal country. IIRC 90% of the black Protestant vote (and the black vote overall) went for Obama in 2008 while 55-65% of the overall Protestant vote went for McCain. I don't have any numbers breaking down the Catholic vote along racial lines, but I could imagine something similar.

6 posted on 08/03/2010 2:34:59 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: bronxville

Dubious.


7 posted on 08/03/2010 2:40:44 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: bronxville

St. Dominic’s here has “separate” ethnic groups. The Philipinos have a St Vincent de Paul Society which does good work in the parish. Other groups have organized as Catholic groups in the parish rather than as Race groups. They do not lobby for “greater representation” in the administration(a mighty limited venue) but rather create structures in the parish that are integral parts of the parish and give them an “over-representation” in the active running of parish activities. Membership in the groups is not limited and over time they become less and less homogeneous. The organizing spark is “how do we help the parish? win souls? help the poor? and the societies start out as “ethnic” because groups of friends and relatives get together and start them.
The Philipinos, Vietnamese, Latinos, etc, organize as Catholics with a Catholic purpose rather than as ethnics with a political purpose.


8 posted on 08/03/2010 2:50:06 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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