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Horrific Serial Infanticide Files Found in Home of Cardinal Danneels. He is to be Questioned Today.
Catholic Church Conservation ^ | 7/6/10 | Chris Gillibrand

Posted on 07/06/2010 9:31:32 AM PDT by marshmallow

The Dutroux file discovered in the residence of the Archbishop of Malines

Some confidential judicial documents of which certain belong to the Dutroux dossier were found at the end of June in the possession of the Archbishop of Malines according to the daily Het Laaste Niews. The interrogation of Msgr Danneels which takes place today could bring a response to this strange discovery.

On 24th June, judicial searches were undertaken of the Catholic Church in Belgium. Some tombs were examined- the police visited the home of Cardinal Danneels and hundreds of files, computers and DVDs were taken from the residence of the Archbishop of Malines. The investigators attempted to find the presumably hidden files about paedophilia. During these searches, the magistrate of Brussels made a strange discovery.

Some photos of the exhumation of Julie and Melissa

Up to 100 photos showing the exhumation of the bodies of the children, but also exchanges of reports between magistrates in the Dutroux affair and large parts of the judicial file were found. The fact is that these documents were only intended for the judicial authorities and, a priori, had nothing to do with the church, explained RTL journalist.

This is not the first leak of elements of the judicial record of Dutroux according to Solimando Antonio. He recalls that Cdrom of the Dutroux investigation was sent to several editors, some who had decided to publish it. According to Het Laatste Nieuws, the presence of those confidential files and reports to the archdiocese will once again support defenders of the theory of a paedophile network ... Even if, as a reminder, the court has ruled that it does not accept this theory.

Monsignor Danneels heard today

How and why certain confidential information of the Dutroux case were kept at the Archdiocese of Malines/ Mechelen? The Archbishop Danneels hearing scheduled this morning, will provide an answer. Monsignor Danneels is on the grill, like the judge ordered the searches of the Church: since yesterday, Wim de Troy is being closely monitored. After using methods described as muscular, he is now under supervision of his superiors and may be withdrawn from the case.

Translation from RTL

More soon.

Six years ago the Cardinal successfully obtained an injunction against a Brussels- based newspaper to stop publication of details of his alleged involvement in the Dutroux affair. The article gave details of an alleged attempt to blackmail the Cardinal by sending a videocassette to the Vatican. It is possible that this file relates to his defence against baseless charges.

One of the few cases to have been brought to court relates to the Cure of Kinkempois, a parish priest of a town 6 km from where two of the children of the Dutroux case were abducted.

Cardinal Danneels has already been fined in another case for cover up but this was overturned on appeal.

So the big question this week- will Cardinal Danneels be arrested?


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The "Dutroux case" refers to Marc Dutroux, a Belgian serial killer, who abducted, raped and killed young girls in the 1990s.

Heard nothing in the MSM about this, yet. This blog comes from a guy who lives in Belgium.

FWIW.

1 posted on 07/06/2010 9:31:35 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

The Cardinal has photos of the exhumation of the children’s bodies and they haven’t arrested him yet? Am I missing something here? Wouldn’t only the murderer have this sort of thing?


2 posted on 07/06/2010 9:40:11 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: marshmallow

Cardinal Danneels is Archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels and chairman of the Belgium Bishops Conference. He will be awarded with an honorary doctorate for his great achievements in the fields of pastoral care and spirituality. Cardinal Danneels is recognized as an inspiring leader even beyond the Catholic church. He understands the art of passing the message of the Bible to the modern people, and his many pastoral letters and speeches convey his capability to exercise pastoral responsibility while being open to modern culture. . Cardinal Danneels has an open vision about the relationship between the local and global church. In times of conflict, he knows how to keep and strengthen unity. Danneels promotes an open discussion


3 posted on 07/06/2010 9:40:57 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Beowulf9
Am I missing something here? Wouldn’t only the murderer have this sort of thing?

No.

The pictures belong to the authorities. This is a case which has already been prosecuted and a perp convicted. See my links.

4 posted on 07/06/2010 9:44:09 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: JoeProBono
Was Archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels.

Now retired...........(thank God!).

5 posted on 07/06/2010 9:45:45 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Beowulf9

Do you know what an exhumation is? How would the killer get photos of the exhumation? It’s when the police dig up the bodies, for evidence. The fact that the church has these files only means that the church got its hands on some police reports... probably because of some involvement with the case.


6 posted on 07/06/2010 9:47:02 AM PDT by dangus
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To: marshmallow
Up to 100 photos showing the exhumation of the bodies of the children, but also exchanges of reports between magistrates in the Dutroux affair and large parts of the judicial file were found. The fact is that these documents were only intended for the judicial authorities and, a priori, had nothing to do with the church....According to Het Laatste Nieuws, the presence of those confidential files and reports to the archdiocese will once again support defenders of the theory of a paedophile network ... Even if, as a reminder, the court has ruled that it does not accept this theory.

Ping for later reading

7 posted on 07/06/2010 10:09:10 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2503089/posts?page=9#9)
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To: marshmallow

The Catholic PR people most likely did a public records request to see what was in the files, it isn’t abnormal. do it all the time, as do mormons. Pretty much any church that is more business than Holy. Scientologists


8 posted on 07/06/2010 10:10:18 AM PDT by BigGaloot
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To: marshmallow
Ah, how convenient - a scapegoat for the Belgian state to pin the Dutroux affair on at the precise moment the Belgian union is in danger of collapse.

Let's see if this information is clarified later, after the damage is done.

9 posted on 07/06/2010 10:20:20 AM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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Maybe the exhumed corpses were those of parishioners' children, or they were recovered from land the diocese had stewardship of. In such a position, wouldn't you ask for a copy of any exhumation documents?

The UK state knows I'm always careful to ask for custody and search records whenever I'm even peripherally involved in a police case: I certainly can't fault this guy just for owning items of public record.

And I'm not sure how 'business' comes into it. Is there a lot of money to be made in exhumation records? How does that work exactly?

Right now this sounds like more fishing from the police to cover their embarrassing tomb-raider fiasco - abetted of course by a sensation-crazy media.

10 posted on 07/06/2010 10:38:03 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: marshmallow
Did the diocese have any involvement with the case or the victims? Or did one of the staff?

Skimming the article, maybe one of the staff suspected another killer, or that the killings were part of a larger thing. Or maybe a staff member was related to one of the victims, and wanted to confirm that the right guy was caught.

Another question is how did they get the photos? In the US, you can't just file a Freedom of Information Act form to get these. They usually will not release photos of children to anyone outside of law enforcement.

11 posted on 07/06/2010 10:40:05 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: agere_contra

There some much news about horrible things going on in the catholic church right now it’s astounding, anyone noticing?


12 posted on 07/06/2010 10:40:20 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: agere_contra

There so much news about horrible things going on in the catholic church right now it’s astounding, anyone noticing?


13 posted on 07/06/2010 10:40:24 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: marshmallow

I wish there was a better translation.


14 posted on 07/06/2010 10:46:57 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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Wasn’t there suspicion that Dutroux’s serial killings were entwined with a pedophile ring that reached quite high in Belgian political circles, and that he was protected by that? Lord help us if Church officials were (and are) involved in this evil ....


15 posted on 07/06/2010 10:54:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: silverleaf; marsh-mellow
Finished the article.

Have coworkers in Belgium, and that was one of the rumors. If you have read books by many Christian writers in the EU, there is a lot of talk of pedophile rings in higher levels of government.

For that matter, if you are from Nebraska and of a certain age, there is a lot of us who remember the “Franklin Cover up” about the GOP. Some of it might be true.

16 posted on 07/06/2010 11:08:28 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: cmj328
Trying again, expurgated version this time.

Good post from you. I haven't trusted - or rather I have instinctively distrusted - media coverage of pedophilia cases ever since I learned about Gerard Amirault.

For those who forget, Mr Amirault was the American citizen who was tried and convicted of using robots and clowns to molest children in a hot-air balloon. These details were gleefully reported against him in the media at the time.

The case was the biggest load of nonsense since the Salem witch trials, and yet poor Mr Amirault is still technically adjudged to have done these things. His accusers, now grown men and women, cannot retract their stories without losing a colossal amount of money and becoming liable to civil recovery. A total trainwreck of justice, and all of it made in America.

So heaven only knows what kind of Dan Brown pedophile-fantasy a bunch of repressed Europeans might dream up.

18 posted on 07/06/2010 11:27:56 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: marshmallow
The fact is that these documents were only intended for the judicial authorities and, a priori, had nothing to do with the church, explained RTL journalist.

If I'm understanding this translation properly, the a priori means they're assuming this case had nothing to do with the Catholic Church. It does raise a big question.

First, how did he get ahold of the files, if they were confidential police reports? Maybe open records, maybe some other way.

Second, why did he get ahold of the files? It's hard to imagine a reason that doesn't take you to some dark possibilities. I won't go further than that. I suppose there's a possibility that someone working the case became extremely disturbed over what he'd seen and came in for counseling, and brought the files to show him what he was talking about. Beyond that, I don't want to contemplate.

19 posted on 07/06/2010 11:29:15 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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OTOH, 1) there are few pieces of evidence easier for police to plant than police property, and 2) it is possible that this information was already publicly disseminated.

The fact that the victims were girls makes this a bit different than the usual Catholic clergy sex abuse story.

20 posted on 07/06/2010 12:25:11 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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