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To: delacoert

The Institute for Religious Research - just another anti Mormon organization thriving on propaganda.

Where do they get their money? From selling articles such as this.

Blah blah blah. Same old boring garbage. Don’t you ever get sick of spreading these lies?

Jesus died for Mormons, too. Amen.


11 posted on 05/11/2010 12:12:12 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; delacoert
Where do they get their money? From selling articles such as this.

Interesting SD, you bash anti's for making false statements regarding mormonism. The mormon church makes money by selling articles as well - why are you not condemning mormons outlets as well? FAIR, FARMS/Maxwell, Shirts, et al, and the lies they put forth on a regular basis.

Unremarkably, in classical mormonite manner comes the attack on the organization - NOT the content of the material presented. Really SD, suprise us some day by ACTUALLY dealing with the topic - but then you would have to think about it.

BTW SD, I hear the mormon mall is over 4 Billion now.

12 posted on 05/11/2010 1:19:22 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Amen.

17 posted on 05/11/2010 5:06:38 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Saundra Duffy

FAIR- just another anti Christian organization thriving on propaganda.


26 posted on 05/13/2010 8:54:59 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy

Where does the mormon corporation get their money? From scams like “tithing” “temple memberships” businesses, real estate, malls, newspapers, pornography, insurance companies, etc..

Mormonism: Tithing

3. “Tithing” was an Old Testament principle (Mal. 3:8-10) which has merit in the New Testament dispensation (Matt. 23:23). However, tithing was not instituted as a saving principle as LDS believe. Brigham Young said, “The law of tithing is an eternal law... that God has instituted for the benefit of the human family, or their salvation and exaltation (Deseret News, “Church News,” July 20, 1968, p. 14). D. & C. 64:23 also says, “He that is tithed shall not be burned at His coming.” Thus the LDS Church is among the churches that the B. of M. warns about when it says, “Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be churches built up that say: Come unto me, and for your money you shall be forgiven of your sins” (Mormon 8:32). Yet, LDS often boast that they serve unpaid while ministers in other churches are “hirelings,” who minister just for all the money they get by passing an offering plate. If ministers want to get rich, they are in the wrong profession, because ministry is often one of the lowest paid professions. A lot of ministers also work many more hours each week than those in secular jobs! But, it is not unspiritual for ministers to receive wages as LDS often claim. While the Apostle Paul was a tentmaker (Acts 18:3) and supported himself that way sometimes, he also said, “I robbed other churches taking wages of them, to do you service” (I Cor. 11:8; 9:6-14).

Even LDS President Joseph F. Smith said of LDS leaders who are paid a salary, “These men, whose whole time is occupied in ministry, are only drawing their necessary support from the church. They must have that - the laborer is worthy of his hire” (G.D., p. 291). The D. & C. teaches the same thing in Sections 70:12, 42:71-73. But, an official LDS promotional book claims, “There is no paid or professional ministry. Thirty-two general officers and the presidents of missions are given living allowances. Add to this a few specialists and a staff of clerks who give their full working time to the church. These constitute all who may be classified as paid personnel” (What of the Mormons, pp. 17-18). An LDS missionary, his family or some Priesthood quorum usually contribute to the LDS church what it costs for him (or her) to serve his mission. Funds were sent directly to the missionary until recently when the IRS would not allow such funds to be counted as “contributions” to a church. So, now the funds are sent through the LDS Church. Missionary support is not counted as “tithes.”

Where is the LDS tithe money spent? President Joseph F. Smith said, “Thousands of dollars are being expended to feed and clothe the poor, and to take care of those who are dependent upon the church. They look to their mother for succor and support, and it is right and proper that the church should provide for its own poor and indigent, feeble and helpless, so far as it is possible” (G.D., p. 291). But, if the tithe is spent on the poor, why is a “Fast Tithe” collected the first Sunday of each month to help the poor? In addition, the famous Mormon “Welfare Program” requires a contribution of considerable time and money above the tithe to take care of the needy. The ladies “Relief Society” was also set up for the purpose of helping the poor. With all the LDS collections for the poor and needy, why has Utah, which is around 75% Mormon, consistently had a larger percentage of people on government relief than the national average? Something is wrong! Either Utah has too many poor, needy people, or all the money collected for the poor is not getting to them!

The LDS Church does not publish an annual report of its income and expenses, and it will not open its financial records for examination. While they build some beautiful buildings, the local “wards” or churches are charged by the LDS church headquarters in addition to their tithes for much of that expense. Utah Holiday Magazine reported on March 22, 1976, that the daily income of the LDS Church was $3,000,000 (p. 4-11). Since then the church has more than doubled its membership, which has also increased its income.

Much of LDS tithe money is invested in land and business. Some of the nation’s largest farms, ranches, and orchards are LDS Church-owned. They have large investments in hotels, department stores, insurance companies, newspapers, television and radio stations, canning companies, sugar companies, and so on. The General Authorities of the LDS Church served on the boards of these companies until 1996 and received salaries from them plus their “living allowances” paid directly by the Church. Thus, LDS leaders are all wealthy indirectly from the tithes paid by Church members! (For further information on LDS business involvement, see The Mormon Corporate Empire by John Heinerman and Anson Shupe, Beacon Press).

( Marvin W. Cowan Mormon Claims Answered (1997 version) Chapter 8 Salvation: Keep the Commandments, 4. Tithing)


27 posted on 05/13/2010 9:01:12 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy
Don’t you ever get sick of spreading these lies?

I predict:

Sandy will NOT be able to illustrate a LIE she has found in the article.

39 posted on 05/13/2010 12:54:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
 
Jesus died for Mormons, too. Amen.
 


 

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."
 - Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321
 
 
"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."
- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88
 
 
"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)
 
 
There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"
- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
 
 
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."
 - Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
 
 
 
"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"
 - Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670
 
 

40 posted on 05/13/2010 12:55:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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