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The Apostasy of the Religious Right - The Manhattan Declaration
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | 4/29/10 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 04/30/2010 11:43:30 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

In a day of ever-growing moral collapse and turmoil in Washington D.C. and our nation, the American Religious Right have been linking up together more and more on current social and moral issues called “pro-natural laws.” Many of the American Religious Right have even put aside sound Biblical teaching and eternal spiritual absolutes of time and eternity in favor of a greater "social unity” with those who do not hold to such doctrines (Deut. 22:10; 2 Cor. 6:14; Eph. 5:6-8).

Such godless and decadent “social squeezing” by the Left in America has been the very catalyst for an “apostate” ecumenical union among the ARR. I have found that many conservatives in the Religious Right are quite willing to compromise Biblical truth in their attempt to make the Bible more relevant and "palatable.” In fact, when push comes to shove, these really DO NOT believe the clear Scriptural teachings regarding salvation and one’s indispensable need for a personal relationship with the Christ of Holy Scripture (Matt. 7:21-23; John 3:36; Jude 1:10). While they are quite dogmatic on the social, moral and fiscal issues in terms of Natural Law, they are NOT so dogmatic about the authority of Almighty God’s Infallible Word (Heb. 10:29; 2 Peter 2:1; 3:16).

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: manhattandeclaration; religiousright
I cannot tell you how many Believers and Evangelicals today have gotten all caught up in America's departure and have forgotten that the Day of the Lord is at hand!
1 posted on 04/30/2010 11:43:30 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

“tolerance” and “diversity” are two of the smoothest and best intentioned paths.


2 posted on 04/30/2010 11:52:25 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Yes...but that’s a sign of the times. In other words, we were told this would happen.


3 posted on 04/30/2010 11:54:10 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Amen !

Evangelicalism is a spiritual ship wreck . Billy Graham started to dismantle it and his spiritual “off spring “are finishing it..

The slogan today is “can’t we all just get along and forget the gospel thing”?


4 posted on 04/30/2010 4:36:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

exactly... Keep it gospel and Bible centered.


5 posted on 04/30/2010 5:47:33 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

“Protestantism with it’s sliding scale of “doctrines” is an inclined plane to the abyss of total unbelief”.

A “religion” that has an “invisible Church”, that can’t EVEN answer infallible if Christ is God.

A religion with as many sects as there are members, is no religion, just plain anarchy.


6 posted on 04/30/2010 7:24:33 PM PDT by Leoni
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To: None

A denomination or sect that cant enjoin with similar others to defend their rights against a secular onslaught that denies them the right to teach their beliefs and hire people that share their mission(cant fire obstinate gay people who are against your mission), that is legislating against the right to conscious in performing medical procedures(if your on staff, you can be used for assist in abortions in the hospital and worse), that will curtail a reverends right to determine who he marries (lawsuits because gay people who have been silent members of the church are denied marriage) and a whole host of other important issues, has their head up their arses, but may view themselves as theologically distinct, pure and untainted.


7 posted on 05/01/2010 2:19:45 AM PDT by Sporaticus
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To: None

A denomination or sect that cant enjoin with similar others to defend their rights against a secular onslaught that denies them the right to teach their beliefs and hire people that share their mission(cant fire obstinate gay people who are against your mission), that is legislating against the right to conscious in performing medical procedures(if your on staff, you can be used for assist in abortions in the hospital and worse), that will curtail a reverends right to determine who he marries (lawsuits because gay people who have been silent members of the church are denied marriage) and a whole host of other important issues, has their head up their arses, but may view themselves as theologically distinct, pure and untainted.


8 posted on 05/01/2010 2:20:28 AM PDT by Sporaticus
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To: None

A denomination or sect that cant enjoin with similar others to defend their rights against a secular onslaught that denies them the right to teach their beliefs and hire people that share their mission(cant fire obstinate gay people who are against your mission), that is legislating against the right to conscious in performing medical procedures(if your on staff, you can be used for assist in abortions in the hospital and worse), that will curtail a reverends right to determine who he marries (lawsuits because gay people who have been silent members of the church are denied marriage) and a whole host of other important issues, has their head up their arses, but may view themselves as theologically distinct, pure and untainted.


9 posted on 05/01/2010 2:21:26 AM PDT by Sporaticus
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To: All

Didnt mean to post multiple times; Server being slow caused the confusion and multiplicity.


10 posted on 05/01/2010 2:25:25 AM PDT by Sporaticus
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

And that document is Gospel and Bible centered.


11 posted on 05/01/2010 4:37:00 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

http://manhattandeclaration.org/home.aspx

Read the document and it deals with life,mariage,and faith freedom.


12 posted on 05/01/2010 4:39:54 AM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: Biggirl
BG,

I have, and all those points are good but.... it seeks to compromise sound Biblical doctrine with biblical relativism. Catholics, Protestants etc... do not believe the same thing when it comes to eternal salvation... but they unite in this spirit. If you read the post it gets into the detail of that.

If they said that we as America’s unite that would be good... but they say we as “Christians” unite that is not good.. Because they all have a different Jesus.. It might seem like splitting hairs.. but if you believe truly believe the Gospel message found in the Holy Scriptures their actions are a deceptive form of apostasy and heresy which in the end will bring doom to all it’s followers. The bottom line is that you can not relativize the Bible or who Jesus is. But that is how this group sought to identify themselves.

13 posted on 05/01/2010 6:36:38 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Biggirl

It’s not... What is the Gospel?...what is your “thought” about what it is?... I bet it is different from that of how the Holy Scriptures define it... (no offence)..

If you like... Write down your thoughts..ect then look up theses verses to see if they compare with the Scripture..

1 Cor 15:1-4, Mark 16:15,16, Acts 4:12, 14:21, 2 Cor 4:3-4, Col 1:23, 2 Thes.1 :8, Heb 4:2, 1 Peter 4:6, Rev 14:6-7.. etc..


14 posted on 05/01/2010 6:50:34 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I would add another AMEN!


15 posted on 05/01/2010 10:43:10 AM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: Leoni

The Catholic Church also is in great division and has much scandal on their hands... The majority of Catholics are NOT true practicers “doers” of the Catholic doctrine...etc... As I know first hand…. Be careful my friend throwing rocks from glass houses. lol...

In Bill Donahue’s new book Secular Sabotage he deals with that. By the way ..that was a great book...recommend it to all.

You are right though.. a lot of the protestant parishioners are far from the sound teaching of the Bible... that is why they would sign this thing along with works teaching groups as the Catholic Church. You are right there my friend… I can not deny that.

I.F.


16 posted on 05/01/2010 6:04:47 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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Re:The Catholic Church also is in great division and has much scandal on their hands... The majority of Catholics are NOT true practicers “doers” of the Catholic doctrine...etc... As I know first hand…. Be careful my friend throwing rocks from glass houses. lol...

What I was talking about was DOCTRINE, I said that:

Protestantism with it’s sliding scale of “doctrines” is an inclined plane to the abyss of total unbelief”.

A “religion” that has an “invisible Church”, that can’t EVEN answer infallible if Christ is God.

A religion with as many sects as there are members, is no religion, just plain anarchy.

The Catholic Church has not changed any defined infallible doctrine in it's history. That's 2000 years. Protestants "invisible church" has not ONE defined doctrine that they have not changed or abandoned. They can't NOT EVEN answer conclusively if Christ is 100% equal to The Father

re:The Catholic Church also is in great division and has much scandal on their hands

Nothing worse than the Arian heresy which took like 90+% of the Bishops, where are the Arians today? The point is the the heretics can be judged as in error (heretics), because they CHANGED doctrines. Protestantism can't judge anything, since it has no doctrines.

I a simple layman can refute any bishop and even the pope himself if they change doctrine, but I have to quote the other popes and councils which THEY have deviated / abandoned for their novelties of the day.

All Protestants can do is debate one YOPIOS with another, neither having no foundation, forever arguing and never reaching the truth.

17 posted on 05/02/2010 9:58:50 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: Leoni
It happens my friend...lol sorry about that...I guess I have become a custom to being on the defensive... Your point is well taken..
18 posted on 05/02/2010 10:57:58 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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