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To: Saundra Duffy
God’s thoughts are not our thoughts; His ways are not our ways. Ain’t that the truth.

But even as you said that, Saundra, you said God's - singular possessive -- not gods' -- plural possessive.

Now are you just pretending to come across "Christian" like by subscribing to a FR "presentation" of adhering to only one god? (When you know Mormons hold to at least three gods -- and for those Lds who believe they become a god, you know that makes at least 4!)

Saundra, is Jesus that singular God?
* Thomas calls Jesus his God in John 20:28; even the Nephite disciples likewise called Jesus “their Lord and God” (singular) (3 Nephi 19:18).
* Lds Doctrine & Covenants says Jesus is God (19:4; 62:1; etc.)
* Since there’s only one true God in the Bible and in most LDS scriptures (for example, Pearl of Great Price says "no God besides me" (1:6), either Jesus is a false god or THE one true God.
* As Jesus Christ is a God to Thomas (John 20:28) -- so Thomas has two gods?

It would seem, Saundra, since you cite Isaiah 55:8, that it would be wisdom to us to quickly review this prophet in context, especially going back 10-12 chapters.

Now, were I to impose Mormon theology upon the prophet Isaiah's words, I'd have to change verses to read as follows:
* "I am the Lord, and there are others; apart from me there are multiples of gods." (A perversion of Is. 45:5)
* "I am the Lord, who has organized all things, who with a council of gods stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth with my fellow divine family members." (A twisting of Is. 44:24)
* "It is us who made the earth, and created mankind upon it. Our own hands stretched out the heavens; we marshaled their starry hosts." (A pretzel version of Is. 45:12)
* "I am the first, well almost, and I am certainly not the last; there are other gods all around me." (More twisting - this time of Is. 44:6)
*"Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are our witnesses. Are there gods beside me? Yes, I know plenty." (Utter perversion of Is. 44:8)
*"Before me generations of gods were formed, and so shall it be evermore happily ever after." (Ah, again, the Mormon "gospel" twisted version of Is. 43:10)

May I "sweetly" challenge you, Saundra, to go back to your Biblical roots and meditate day and night upon Isaiah 43, Isaiah 44, and Isaiah 45? Isaiah reminds us, as if the above verses weren't enough, in 45:14: "'Surely God is with you, and there is no other; there is no other god.'"]

Can you say, Saundra that you have no God but Elohim? If Jesus is a distinct "god," then you do have another! (Same with the Holy Spirit) AND, if you think YOU can become another god, you've just added more gods into this mix.

His ways are not our ways. Ain’t that the truth.

Yes, it is, Saundra. But even on the human level it would be a bad assumption to divide what God has not divided.

For example: You meet a woman who says she is Mrs. Finkelbinderbottomschmauser. You say, "No way. I just met a gentleman who told me his name was Finkelbinderbottomschmauser, and I told them there's gotta be only one Finkelbinderbottomschauser name in the world, and he agreed with me." (And he was right) "And now you come along and tell me you share the same name. So which one of you is the real one?"

Obviously, if the two are married as one, they share the same identity without sharing the same "personage." If that's true at the human level, how much more intricate is the unifying intimacy of the Father and the Son at "ways not our ways"???

Saundra, "separate personalities" doesn't mean identity-wise, separate "beings." Even in marriage, 2-become-1.

Likewise, Jesus always has been God (John 1:1).
God always was God (Ps. 90:2).
Jesus has existed from all eternity in a special relationship with the Father (see Micah 5:2).
Even D&C 39:1 reads, "Hearken & listen to the voice of him who is from all eternity to all eternity, the Great I AM, even Jesus Christ..."

So you can't fully understand how three-are-one? Well, Saundra, to quote someone special to me: "God’s thoughts are not our thoughts; His ways are not our ways. Ain’t that the truth."

10 posted on 04/30/2010 12:35:32 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Now are you just pretending to come across "Christian" like by subscribing to a FR "presentation" of adhering to only one god? (When you know Mormons hold to at least three gods

I presume you're aware this is exactly the Muslim and Jewish criticism of Christianity?

14 posted on 04/30/2010 1:24:37 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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