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Anglican Bishops Back End To Ban On Gay Civil Partnerships In Church [Luther's Legacy?]
London Times ^ | February 22, 2010

Posted on 02/22/2010 5:41:45 PM PST by Steelfish

February 23, 2010 Anglican Bishops Back End To Ban On Gay Civil Partnerships In Church

Gay couples could soon be allowed to “marry” in church after a decision by Anglican bishops and other clergy to support a relaxation of the ban.

Senior bishops in the Lords have told The Times that they will support an amendment to the Equality Bill next month that will lift the ban on civil partnership ceremonies in religious premises. The amendment would remove the legislative prohibition on blessings of homosexual couples and open the door to the registration of civil partnerships in churches, synagogues, mosques and all other religious premises.

In a letter to The Times a group of Church of England clerics say today that religious denominations should be allowed to register civil partnerships on their premises if they wish. It would be up to individual denominations whether to offer civil partnership ceremonies.

The Church of England, which along with the wider Anglican Communion is divided over gay ordinations and same-sex blessings, will maintain its official ban. But if the legislative prohibition is lifted, as seems likely, the Church’s own ban is likely to be ignored by some clergy.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: anglican; catholicpedophilia; europeanchristians; homosexualagenda; moapb; protestantbashing; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 02/22/2010 5:41:46 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

This is actually something to applaud. Repeal of this law by parliament is about getting government out of religion. It is a step by the UK toward our 1st Amendment.

But if the Anglicans actually perform gay marriages/unions, that is something for Christians in the Anglican Church to oppose.


2 posted on 02/22/2010 5:50:54 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Once the sun never set on the British Empire. Now the nation of England is a setting sun.


3 posted on 02/22/2010 5:53:19 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: Steelfish

I read the article, and I am trying to figure out how Martin Luther is connected with this? Maybe someone could clarify the connection.


4 posted on 02/22/2010 5:55:18 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Steelfish

Thes people are working for the Devil not Christ.


5 posted on 02/22/2010 5:55:30 PM PST by Venturer
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To: heye2monn

Actually, the light you are referring to is from the rising moon (god). Islam will be the new state religion of the British isles soon.

Sad is that is to contemplate.


6 posted on 02/22/2010 5:56:36 PM PST by Ronin
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To: Steelfish

If Luther was alive, the things he would be saying to the Anglicans would be rather rough and unfit to print this day and age. That what he would say to the likes of the ELCA would be more direct.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 6:00:35 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Nosterrex

Although Anglicanism is Henry VIII’d break from Rome, the overall Protestant churches that now condone homosexual relationships as part of a legitimate understanding of Scripture is traceable to Luther’s own view that scripture alone can be interpreted subjectively without reference to a one true Church unmoored from apostolic traditions and revelation.


8 posted on 02/22/2010 6:02:55 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Nosterrex
I am trying to figure out how Martin Luther is connected with this?

Pride, like Luther's, leads to disobedience, like Luther's, which leads to apostasy, like Luther's - and like that of the Anglican Church.

9 posted on 02/22/2010 6:04:26 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Steelfish
Long before Luther there were various reformers and reformations in the church. Whatever you feel about Luther's reformation, you cannot blame him for the Anglican Church or the acceptance of homosexuality. That would be like me blaming Pope John Paul II for all the pedophiles in the Roman priesthood. As far as Protestantism goes, it would be more correct to talk about ProtestantismS. Luther believe that the interpretation of Scripture was the work of the entire church, not a matter of personal interpretation. Luther and Lutherans get blamed for many things with which they had nothing to do.
10 posted on 02/22/2010 6:12:19 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: wideawake

This makes no sense to me.


11 posted on 02/22/2010 6:13:55 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Steelfish

Meanwhile, the authorities in England are about to ban skirts in school, saying it isn’t fair to the transgendered to have gender-specific clothing.


12 posted on 02/22/2010 6:15:22 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: heye2monn

WE are a setting sun. The way of the modern world is fascism.


13 posted on 02/22/2010 6:16:12 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: Nosterrex

You are generally correct- But priestly pederasty was aberrational not part of official Church doctrine.

The Reformers argued that the individual could interpret scripture for himself. So first he needed it in his language, if he didn’t know Latin or Greek or Hebrew. Thus to each, his own interpretation. While Luther did admit to the sin of heresy it was a fluid concept that was in contradiction to his own theological view of Scripture. This is the “original flaw” that has now run it’s course to corrupt whatever doctrinal basis might exist in support of an orthodox (homosexuality as a sin) “Church” teaching within the Protestant community.


14 posted on 02/22/2010 6:24:22 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

So, is that the original title, or did you decide to slap a few Christians with the last two words?


15 posted on 02/22/2010 6:33:12 PM PST by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: Nosterrex

I surely hope someone will do that, for as a llifelong Lutheran (age 83), I want to know whether I should make a change.


16 posted on 02/22/2010 6:55:26 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: irishtenor

No, not at all. Simply providing a historical backdrop about the law of unintended consequences.


17 posted on 02/22/2010 7:07:11 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
So give us your insight into the unintended consequences of catholic priests not being allowed to marry; like homosexuality within the catholic church; children being raped,etc..
19 posted on 02/22/2010 7:12:58 PM PST by gedeon3
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To: gedeon3

Two points.

1. The Catholic Catechism refers to homosexual conduct as “intrinsically disordered” and a grave moral sin. We are not talking here about personal sin.

2. You may be right about Luther. But you are dead wrong about Lutheranism- which was my point. Gay men and women now are formally ordained ministers of the Lutheran denomination.

So, as for your assertion of “anti-evangelical” hatred or “ignorance” it might help to be properly informed before branding around your baseless volleys.


20 posted on 02/22/2010 7:17:50 PM PST by Steelfish
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