Scripture Alone Disproves "Scripture Alone" (Sola Scriptura)

Scripture Catholic ^ | n/a | John Salza

[Between the Lines]

The problem is, at least on this website, that some continually INSIST that Catholics are wrong, and the Catholics are continually, in response, playing defense. I thought it was proper time to go on offensive for once.

To the casual observer of this forum, both sides are equally offensive.

[Between the Lines]

Amen!

[PugetSoundSoldier]

You guys should save the energy you spend proselytizing Protestants for spreading the Good News to people who haven’t heard it.

The problem is, for many Catholics - Protestants are as lost as someone who has never heard the Good News. We're lost sheep, supposedly.

[steve86]

Any teaching that contradicts scripture should immediately be rejected.

What about when scripture contradicts itself?

[Petronski]

Impossible. There are none.

[DManA]

If it appears to you have misinterpreted it.

[Between the Lines]

You guys should save the energy you spend proselytizing Protestants for spreading the Good News to people who haven't heard it.

If both sides were only proselytizing to the other, I would be fine with that. From the looks of it both sides are more interested in giving the other a black eye and a bloody nose that in proselytizing.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

Great, so nothing theologically outside of scriptures is Holy and Christian, correct?

[joe fonebone]

didn’t read the article, eeehhhhh

[DManA]

A lot of truth in that.

[beefree]

“Pope is the Vicar of Christ”
What does this mean?

[r9etb]

Peter 3:16 - the Scriptures are difficult to understand and can be distorted by the ignorant to their destruction. God did not guarantee the Holy Spirit would lead each of us to infallibly interpret the Scriptures.

Which is somewhat beside the point. It's not a matter of interpreting Scriptures, as that's not really what Sola Scriptura is about.

Cherry-picking a definition from Wikipedia, "Sola scriptura ... is the doctrine that the Bible is the only infallible and inerrant authority for Christian faith, and that it contains all knowledge necessary for salvation and holiness."

But then consider the Holy Spirit -- John's Gospel presents Him as the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

Consider also St. Paul's encounter with the folks in Ephesus (Acts 19), who had the Baptism of John, but not the Holy Spirit. It was the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that made them Christians.

[beefree]

“What about when scripture contradicts itself?”

Such as?

[Gamecock]

Gen. to Rev. - Scripture never says that Scripture is the sole infallible authority for God's Word. Scripture also mandates the use of tradition. This fact alone disproves sola Scriptura....

Nor does Scripture, not even once, use the term Trinity.

So there you have it folks, based on the logic shown above, there is not Trinity. Let's all become Mormons! < sarc>

[Safrguns]

Acts 8:30-31; Heb. 5:12 - these verses show that we need help in interpreting the Scriptures. We cannot interpret them infallibly on our own. We need divinely appointed leadership within the Church to teach us....

When Christ died on the cross, after Jesus spoke "It is finished..." The veil of the temple was torn in two.

Do you know what this means? Do you know what the veil represented?

Or do you need to be enlightened by someone who is "divinely appointed"?

[Anti-Hillary]

2 Peter 1:21
For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

[ajr276]

It means that the Pope uniquely and exclusively sits in the place of Christ on earth.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15403b.htm

[steve86]

I posed it as a hypothetical question. However, it is well known that antithetical parties will use seemingly opposing passages in support of their own bias. As has been suggested, one or the other party may be forcing an interpretation that wasn’t intended.

[urroner]

I read all the scriptures you posted and not a single one of them said anything about “Sola Scriptura.”

[urroner]

Strictly from the Bible, please explain what the ripping of the veil represents, then explain the purpose of the Apostles that Christ chose.

When Christ said “It is finished,” what is “it?”