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To: csmusaret
I’d like Church more if the pews weren’t filled with self righteous do-gooders who are always looking down their hypocritical noses at everybody else.

We're all sinners. Sime, like me, have been worse than others.

You ought to come to our Bible study class. I think you'd like iut.

Church is not a gathering place for the perfect, it's a hospital for sinners, and we all need the hospital.

39 posted on 02/19/2010 7:53:38 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

My husband goes to church to study in men’s bible groups and to perform service designed for and by men. They are a tight bunch. Play golf and sports together outside church. They network in business - help younger church folks get jobs and into college, etc. They tutor church high school kids who are screwing up. Single moms go to them when they are having trouble with a kid and they will spend time with the kid to figure out what is up. Sometimes it is as simple as the kid’s mom can afford the fees for sports and the kid feels left out. It’s no big deal to arrange things so they are right. It’s a middle class church. When a boy turns 13, they can join the men in most of the activities they do. That is a big deal to the boys and they are treated like men.

The women do the stuff they want to do and pretty much the services are geared towards women. They mostly teach sunday school for the little ones. Their service projects tend to be geared outside the church community for the poor, etc. They do a lot of musicals and plays at nursing homes.

Since they have designed this separate man thing five years ago, they have attracted a lot more males to the church and become quite a powerhouse amounst themselves in life and in Christ. In my opinion, the Priest does better serving the ladies than dealing with the men. Some women can not stand men being the bosses of themselves at church, protest then leave. It is pretty shocking to some women that they are “excluded” from male created, directed and centered activity. But it is very good for the nurturing the faith of males.


59 posted on 02/19/2010 8:48:15 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Just another Joe

We’re all sinners. Sime, like me, have been worse than others.

You ought to come to our Bible study class. I think you’d like iut.

Church is not a gathering place for the perfect, it’s a hospital for sinners, and we all need the hospital.

Yours’ was the only Christian response I received. My feelings are not in any way anti Christian, anti God, or anti Jesus. They are heartfelt, sincere, and based upon my observations of attendees in a variety of Churches in four states. Most of the people who replied to me should probably spend some time contemplating how Jesus would have responded to my comments. Churchs across this land need more worshipers like you and fewer of the type I am refering to. Sad to say, but I feel you are in the minority.


77 posted on 02/20/2010 6:50:47 AM PST by csmusaret (Sarah Palin thinks everyday in America is the 4th of July. Obama thinks it is April 15th.)
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