Posted on 01/21/2010 7:24:48 PM PST by Pope Pius XII
Catholic League president Bill Donohue weighs in on the San Francisco trial where the constitutionality of Proposition 8 is being considered:
The voters in 30 states who have taken up the issue of gay marriage have voted 30-0 to affirm marriage as a union between a man and a woman; Proposition 8 did exactly that in California. Attorneys David Boies and Theodore B. Olsen, however, are contesting this issue in court.
Yesterday, the judge allowed Boies and Olsen to submit e-mails they obtained between the director of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and the bishops. Allowing such communication in a trial is unusual enough, but the purpose was even more invidious: to show that Catholics played a major role in passing Proposition 8. The lawyers did the same thing to Mormons, offering more e-mail “proof” of their involvement.
Now some will reply that it should not matter what the adherents of any religion say about public policy issues. After all, the First Amendment guarantees freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Unfortunately, this misses the point the lawyers want to make.
Their goal is not to contest the First Amendment rights of Catholics and others—their goal is to put religion on trial. What they are saying is that religious-based reasons for rejecting gay marriage are irrational, and thus do not meet the test of promoting a legitimate state interest. That is why they have trotted out professors like Gary Segura of Stanford and George Chauncey of Yale to testify to the irrationality of the pro-Proposition 8 side. Chauncey was even given the opportunity to read from a Vatican document that rejects homosexual marriage.
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I’m so sick of the left attack religion. It makes no sense.
The judges have already commited serious Constitutional error so even if the GLBT pukes win here they'll lose at the USSC.
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, ... For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, ... and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."
Roman 1:18-32 (excerpted)
You know, it’s unfortunate that Donohue has spent so much time embarrassing Catholics by witch-hunting minor and perceived slights over the years, because then when he may have a legitimate comment to make, it’s hard to take him seriously. Something about a broken clock...I guess.
The gays just love it up the anal cavity don’t they?
Don’t need to oppose same sex “marriage” on religious grounds. Since 50% of employed people now are in federal/state/local government jobs, the rest of us can’t afford the increase in benefits.
The whole idea of benefits to dependants originated when one family member worked and was intended to sustain a family which had lost its breadwinner.
It is outrageous that taxpayers should be expected to support lovers — of any sex.
He saw what you didn’t see: what was coming. Remember when the gays invaded St, Patrick’s and desecrated a Host. These people are haters. And the courts are willing to accept the so-called scientific theories of psychologists and sociologists to “prove” against the Church what the Church has not asserted.
Remember r when people thought that Rushwas over the top when he said they were out to get your SUV’s. The gays are people who are out to impose their worldview on us all.
Yeah, I also remember when he made the Church look stupid by making big hay out of “Angels and Demons.” He makes a good living by seeing anti-Catholicism around every corner (real or imagined) and loves to garner attention for himself, neither of which make him particularly credible even when he may have a legitimate point to make.
Ironically they’re attacking religion so gays can legally partake in a religious ceremony.
They don’t want to participate in a religious ceremony. They want to participate in a secular ceremony. The only thing they left out was a visit to Lenin’s Tomb. Marriage is a Sacrament in the Catholic Church. That’s what they want the government to squash.
They don’t want to participate in a religious ceremony. They want to participate in a secular ceremony. The only thing they left out was a visit to Lenin’s Tomb. Marriage is a Sacrament in the Catholic Church. That’s what they want the government to squash.
Excellent thread. Thanks all.
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