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1 posted on 12/10/2009 10:55:19 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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Instead of acknowledging the true depth of our differences, the implicit assumption (from the start of the document until its final paragraph) is that Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Protestant Evangelicals and others all share a common faith in and a common commitment to the gospel’s essential claims. The document repeatedly employs expressions like “we [and] our fellow believers”; “As Christians, we . . .”; and “we claim the heritage of . . . Christians.” That seriously muddles the lines of demarcation between authentic biblical Christianity and various apostate traditions.

Ping for later

2 posted on 12/10/2009 11:09:41 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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Was in a church that had a legalistic bent like his for years. Have escaped. Signed the document.


3 posted on 12/10/2009 11:14:47 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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That’s not a good vacuum cleaner because it doesn’t butter my toast.


4 posted on 12/10/2009 11:17:47 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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There’s still a few true Bible believers around. Thank God!


5 posted on 12/10/2009 11:20:24 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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Getting in an “I’m more Christian than you are” match doesn’t seem to me to be the most productive choice. We’re all fallible, and we’re all probably wrong about something. Unite on what we can. Debate if you want. But, foremost, rely on the Grace of the Almighty to correct for our inevitable doctrinal shortcomings.

Getting caught up in legalisms is a fool’s errand — and allowing those legalisms to get in the way of doing Godly work with people that disagree about doctrinal minutae is ridiculous.

SnakeDoc


6 posted on 12/10/2009 11:21:22 AM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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Holier-than-thou.
Self-righteous.
Pedant.

It’s not supposed to be a religious document, Pastor Clod. Its basis is Judeo-Christian faith, but it is neither an explicit nor an implicit endorsement of any particular catechism.


8 posted on 12/10/2009 11:29:43 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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I’ll just say this a bit broadly.

Most of us here have complete contempt for people who are all for saving whales and trees, but at the same time are pro-abort. We wonder what the statistical correlation is between the two positions - you know, how many of Group A are also members of Group B.

I just wonder what the correlation is between people who have contempt for RINOs and RINO-enablers on the one hand, but don’t think that anyone should ever have a definition of what it means to be a Christian, on the other.


11 posted on 12/10/2009 11:48:32 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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That seriously muddles the lines of demarcation between authentic biblical Christianity and various apostate traditions.

In short, he won't sign because there are too many Catholics involved.

What a bigot.

12 posted on 12/10/2009 11:49:12 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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MacArthur's right on this one, btw.
15 posted on 12/10/2009 11:54:38 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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The Boss has already addressed these “authentic Gospel” people:

38And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

39But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.

40For he that is not against us is on our part.

41For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.


16 posted on 12/10/2009 11:56:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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All the denominations are a mixture of believers and tares; has he stopped going to his church because of the tares that are there?


23 posted on 12/10/2009 12:17:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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Although I respect Macarthur, he will be suprised when he sees these ‘apostates’ sitting at the banquet table in heaven with him.


31 posted on 12/10/2009 12:31:14 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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“That seriously muddles the lines of demarcation between authentic biblical Christianity and various apostate traditions.”

Who are the various apostate traditions? He should have just come out and named them in my opinion.

Freegards


35 posted on 12/10/2009 12:48:58 PM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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Many in the evangelical community are not fans of John MacArthur. He seems to have the attitude that Christians should not challenge the government officials who are corrupt.


46 posted on 12/10/2009 2:40:22 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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Oh Puleeze! Our culture is burning down and this guy is arguing about the theological metaphysics of the fire extinguisher.

As my 2 year old grand daughter would say, John Mac Arthur is a poopy head!”

50 posted on 12/10/2009 3:54:03 PM PST by wintertime
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Oh Puleeze! Our culture is burning down and this guy is arguing about the theologic metaphysics of the fire extinguisher.

As my 2 year old grand daughter would say, John Mac Arthur is a poopy head!”

51 posted on 12/10/2009 3:54:54 PM PST by wintertime
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I read and signed the Declaration as soon as it was out.

This guy reminds me of the Pharisees.

53 posted on 12/10/2009 6:04:16 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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I read and signed the Declaration as soon as it was out.

This guy reminds me of the Pharisees.

54 posted on 12/10/2009 6:04:25 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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Pity more pastors don't share MacArthur's discernment.

"But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.

Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." -- Matthew 15:13-14


64 posted on 12/10/2009 11:57:28 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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Somebody needs to see if Pastor MacArthur can sign this:

The Personhood Imperative Proclamation and Pledge

107 posted on 12/11/2009 9:50:05 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Spending your way out of recession" is like trying to drink your way out of drowning.)
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