You hate me? Thanks [Every insult can be considered a victory for Catholics]

Toronto Sun ^ | 2009-11-07 | Michael Coren

[Clive]

I just can't keep it in. I know I shouldn't boast but, well, as a Roman Catholic I simply have to.

We've won. I mean, we actually have won. The church founded by Christ has become the one and only institution hated by assorted Marxists, maniacs and misanthropes. In the space of a single week, we had the following:

The Washington Post ran achingly predictable self-promoter and professional atheist, Richard Dawkins, writing that the Catholic Church was "surely up there among the leaders" as "the greatest force for evil in the world."

He described the eucharist as a "cannibal feast" -- incredibly significant in that this is just what the Romans said as they ripped Christians apart and cut off their heads -- and then, in an almost racist manner, moaned on about missionaries sent out "to tell deliberate lies to AIDS-weakened Africans" regarding condoms.

He then, of course, spoke of priests "buggering altar boys." Maybe it's sexual repression that makes Catholic-bashers so fascinated with this particular horror, but it's interesting that many of the same people who want to lower the age of consent for gay sex to 14 become so allegedly upset about abusive homosexual clergy. Apparently it's OK to bugger teenagers as long as they're not altar boys.

The Los Angeles Times devoted an entire editorial to claiming that "church leaders, including popes, have changed their thinking over the years about everything from usury to the culpability of Jews for the crucifixion." Fascinating if true, but anybody with a schoolboy education ought to know that the church always has held sinful humanity, and not any single ethnic group, responsible for the crucifixion.

The editorial went on to state that "you don't have to be Catholic (or Anglican) to realize that society as a whole would be better off if the church's views of women and gays underwent a similar evolution."

Good lord, some people are obsessed with homosexuality.

The church, while concerned about sexual brokenness, is more interested in the billions of poor and marginalized people, which is why it does more for the starving and destitute throughout the world than any other body in history. Even more than white, wealthy liberal journalists in North America!

Then the New York Times ran a column calling the Pope -- try to be more original -- "God's Rottweiler" and referred to him as being a member of the Hitler Youth. Yes, he was. As was almost every young German. Unlike most, however, he was an anti-Nazi and his father risked his life opposing fascism. If only the American and Canadian governments had been as pre-emptive and brave in their defence of the Jews and condemnation of Hitler.

Yet it's all such a compliment. Because, with all due respect, nobody really cares enough about the Anglicans, the United Church, their American cousins and the rest of the moribund group to hate them or even criticize them.

If you stand for nothing, you're not worth attacking. Every insult is a victory, every libel a win, every lying vulgarity a triumph. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Clive]

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[olezip]

The Washington Post ran achingly predictable self-promoter and professional atheist, Richard Dawkins, writing that the Catholic Church was "surely up there among the leaders" as "the greatest force for evil in the world."

Richard Dawkins is clearly a very unhappy person with a disordered mind. He is a little too preoccupied with his warped and twisted view of the world and probably uncomfortable with those who agree with him, an empty feeling among all. Maybe he will repent.

[kindred]

What does it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul?

1COR 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

1COR 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

1COR 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1COR 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

GAL 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

GAL 1:2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

GAL 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,

GAL 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

GAL 1:5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

GAL 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

GAL 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

GAL 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

GAL 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

GAL 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

GAL 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

GAL 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

[Tax-chick]

If you stand for nothing, you're not worth attacking.

Excellent!

[Pietro]

"Richard Dawkins is clearly a very unhappy person...."

As a Christian and a Catholic I can say w/o a doubt that we could not have picked a more useful enemy than this twisted little man.

What other advocate would be so stupid as to approach his enemy w/o the slightest inkling of that enemy's real strength. He walks blindly into traps of his own construction.

Any child w/ a grammer school Bible education can rip to shreds Dawkin's misinformed arguments. His so-called understanding of Christianity is laughable.

[backwoods-engineer]

Thanks for sharing God’s Word with us, kindred.

[jacknhoo]

The Communist Manifesto was first published (in German) in London by a group of German political refugees in 1848. It was also serialized at around the same time in a German-language London newspaper, the Deutsche Londoner Zeitung. The first English translation was produced by Helen Macfarlane in 1850. The Manifesto went through a number of editions from 1872 to 1890; notable new prefaces were written by Marx and Engels for the 1872 German edition, the 1882 Russian edition, the 1883 French edition, and the 1888 English edition. This edition, translated by Samuel Moore with the assistance of Engels, has been the most commonly used English text since.

Excerpt from the Communist Manifesto:

""There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc. that are common to all states of society. But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience."

The Communist Manifesto: www.gutenberg.org/etext/61

[firebasecody]

Yes, unlike Islam which has been a beacon of intellectualism, spirituality, and love.

[Chode]

Amen...

[Sherman Logan]

We've won. I mean, we actually have won. The church founded by Christ has become the one and only institution hated by assorted Marxists, maniacs and misanthropes.

Au contraire. It is fairly obvious that fundamentalist Protestants, the "religious right" are even more hated and despised.

In the popular media, Catholic priests are quite frequently portrayed as admirable men. A conservative Protestant almost never. In fact, I can't think of the last time I saw such a portrayal.

[Just mythoughts]

The Washington Post ran achingly predictable self-promoter and professional atheist, Richard Dawkins, writing that the Catholic Church was "surely up there among the leaders" as "the greatest force for evil in the world."

My apologies in advance if this is a 'caucus thread'. My liberal Catholic in-laws agree with a social gospel and the TOE. And they agree with Nanny state Pelosi, and the recently planted Teddy the 'lion' of the Senate 'universal' health care plan. It is to early to be calling out the winners and losers.

[trisham]

Well. That was refreshing.

[Varda]

Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you (falsely) because of me.
Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven. Thus they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

[Alas Babylon!]

As a Catholic, I agree with you to a certain extent. Please note, however, that in other places besides the United States, the prevalent Christian denomination is Catholic or Orthodox, and therefore raises the ire of Liberals, Leftists and Marxists in those locales.

In other words, hate for Fundamentalists is more of an American Leftist thing.

Regardless, we should all stand together as Christians. When I hear Leftists slandering the Religious Right in this country, I always stick up for my Fundamentalist brethren and defend us all as Christians.

[fanfan]

Thanks for the ping, Clive.

Judith Anne, you still here?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Judith Anne, you still here?

When is she not?

A good Opus just doesn't mean what it used to.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Au contraire. It is fairly obvious that fundamentalist Protestants, the "religious right" are even more hated and despised.

In the popular media, Catholic priests are quite frequently portrayed as admirable men. A conservative Protestant almost never. In fact, I can't think of the last time I saw such a portrayal.

That is 100% accurate. The media hates nothing as much as a conservative, Protestant white guy.

[wmfights]

As a Catholic, I agree with you to a certain extent. Please note, however, that in other places besides the United States, the prevalent Christian denomination is Catholic or Orthodox, and therefore raises the ire of Liberals, Leftists and Marxists in those locales.

Where?

No offense intended, but I can't think of any areas where RC's dominate and conservatives run the govt. They are all blue areas.