Posted on 09/30/2009 5:22:13 AM PDT by Jedediah
ENTER IN BEFORE THIS BEGINS ! ! ! free republic | Jedediah
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:05:49 PM by Jedediah
Waters of the earth are about to rise ,
Some shall meet their maker and their demise ,
Those that before " Me " have turned and shut their eyes ,
Yet to my flock , my children I Shall reveal ,
The opening of a seal ,
A promise told of long ago ,
Yet even before I open it now you shall know ,
Because you daily inquire of ME ,
Just as David and Zadok you to shall see ,
My seers , My watchmen through the night ,
I shall reveal where to be standing through this plight ,
So see my children enter in ,
To " Zion , yeah " before this begins ,
For I AM your Menorrah , your Fullness , your Light ,
Walk on My path the Father's will this very night ,
Come ! My children inquire of me ,
To be protected during this catastrophe !
For this is just the beginning for there shall be more ,
Enter into Zion , your Menorrah for I AM your door ,
This light I am shedding , this pre-emptive view ,
Is meant specifically for you ,
My obedient , My humble , My Beloved ones ! \o/
Come ! Enter in before it has begun ,
For I am your Rock ,Your Cornerstone ,
Remain in Me do not go through this alone ! ! !
2 Samuel 15:25-28 (Amplified Bible) 25Then the king told Zadok, Take back the ark of God to the city. If I find favor in the Lord's eyes, He will bring me back and let me see both it and His house. 26But if He says, I have no delight in you, then here I am; let Him do to me what seems good to Him.
27The king also said to Zadok the priest, Are you not a seer? [You and Abiathar] return to the city in peace, and your two sons with you, Ahimaaz your son and Jonathan son of Abiathar.
28See, I will wait at the fords [at the Jordan] of the wilderness until word comes from you to inform me.
1 Chronicles 14:10-11 (King James Version) 10And David enquired of God, saying, Shall I go up against the Philistines? And wilt thou deliver them into mine hand? And the LORD said unto him, Go up; for I will deliver them into thine hand.
11So they came up to Baalperazim; and David smote them there. Then David said, God hath broken in upon mine enemies by mine hand like the breaking forth of waters: therefore they called the name of that place Baalperazim.
Psalm 91 1He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
Waiting for Obama to use this as Bilical citation for global warming.......
I’ve got a question that I don’t think is quite covered in the Religion Forum rules.
If a FReeper fancies himself a prophet and posts his prophecies, can he be criticized as a false prophet or does his status as a FReeper somehow protect him?
Did you know the above two verses are the ones the tempter (the devil) twisted as recorded in Matthew 4:6, as the 'devil' said "IF Thou be the Son of God, cast Thyself down:...." The 'devil' left out the relevant words 'to keep Thee in all Thy ways', and added at any 'at any time'.
One thing the Global Warming Alarmists fail to realize is that there is the same amount of water on the Earth now as there was 20,000,000 years ago. If the polar ice caps melt over centuries then the Earth would just go back to a condition it had already been in for Eons.
They also fail to realize that there have ALWAYS been natural disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes and there ALWAYS will be.
There will NOT 'always' be disasters like..... as in the eternity. This earth is going to be set right again and everything that offends the Heavenly Father will be removed.
Point taken. However, there is no reason to believe that yesterday’s earthquake had ANYTHING to do with any end times events.
I never. Said this is the end but the beginning ,it has just begun
Not in isolation. However, Christ did say Mark 13:8 'diverse' earthquakes were said to be part of the 'signs' as to when we get to that 'season'. Earthquakes to me shows just how little 'control' flesh man has on and over this earth. And it sure ought to be a signal to some on this planet when they burrow deep down into the earth to 'create' their deadly weapons, especially in already earthquake prone regions.
“I never. Said this is the end but the beginning ,it has just begun”
Or, and much more likely, it was a tsunami triggered by a tectonic plate shift, a result of the earth being in an elevated state of potential energy ever since the big bang. And it had nothing to do with God.
You need not accuse him yourself. Let the Word of the Lord do the accusing:
“And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.” Genesis 9:11
Yup, the water rose. And the water fell.
Ask the Samoans.
I mentioned that to the “prophet” last week.
“If a FReeper fancies himself a prophet and posts his prophecies, can he be criticized as a false prophet or does his status as a FReeper somehow protect him?”
Did the prophetic statements include anything that angered either the ADMIN MOD of the Viking Kitties?
;-)
It would not however be "making it personal" to observe that he has called himself a prophet but that claim and/or his prophecies are false. In that case, to keep the thread from becoming "about" an individual Freeper be sure to cite authorities for discussion, e.g. Bible, Catechism.
You’re right, but there is no data to suggest that there has been any change in earthquake activity.
Okay, that makes sense.
The same amount of water as 20,000,000 years ago? How can that be, I mean with all the tsunamis and dead polar bears? ;)
Yep. You never really own it, you just borrow it for a little while.
My answer is as follows:
“...neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood..”
Perhaps the answer to your inquiry lies in noting that some casualties from a tsunami is hardly “all flesh” as described in the Biblical account of the flood.
If a FReeper fancies himself a prophet and posts his prophecies, can he be criticized as a false prophet or does his status as a FReeper somehow protect him?
The title implies a prophecy another flood (as was in Noah’s day).
The Bible says the test of a prophet is that if even one of his prophecies is wrong, he is a false prophet.
The Bible also says God promised never to flood the world again.
Either the Bible is wrong of this prophet is wrong.
He is a false prophet only if a prophecy does not come to pass...Kinda jumping the gun, aren't you???
That is typically the case, look at the case of William Miller.
Not according to God...But who listens to God anyway...
Point taken. However, there is no reason to believe that yesterday’s earthquake had ANYTHING to do with any end times events.
Go back to 1900 (my grandfather was alive then.) If and event like this happened then I doubt it even gets covered in the American newspapers. Maybe 1% of Americans might ever realize it happened.
Go to the 1950’s (my dad was alive then.) You might hear about it a day later on the radio or TV newscast. There would be no images from the area. Just a short one liner “there was a tsunami in Samoa yesterday that killed an estimated 100 people.”
Today. We knew the tsunami would happen before it happened. It was filmed. We saw images of it happening moments after it happened. Instead of being a far away, non-descript event it was up close and personal (despite being on the other side of the world.)
I don’t know if natural disasters are increasing (I’m doubt we have good records going back more than 100 years.) I do know our awareness of them is increasing. Every rumble or tremor is now worldwide news brought instantly to our attention.
Uh...........no. By that yardstick a soothsayer or fortune teller could be labeled a "prophet".
False prophecy can be discerned if it contradicts the deposit of faith or leads people away from the faith and causes them to go astray. Likewise, if it contradicts Scripture it may also be labeled false.
Furthermore, many "prophecies" (and that published here appears to be a good example) carry no timeline. Thus it becomes difficult to distinguish between unfulfilled prophecy and "we're still waiting". The "Rapture" is a prime example.
Finally, it should also be mentioned that just because a prediction or prophecy does come to pass, it does not ipso facto bestow the title of "prophet" on the one who made it. I predict war in the Middle East within 12 months.
There.......I'm a prophet!
Not!
In summary, prophecy can and should be tested by a number of measures for authenticity. This does not require waiting for its fulfillment. In precisely this way we know that the so called "Rapture" is pure baloney and won't happen.
He doesn’t mention a tsunami in his post, he says the waters of the earth are about to rise, suggesting it will be global in scope.
If a tsunami fits his description, then why not the tides? They rise and fall every day, and are much more global. His prediction or “prophecy”, by my reading, implies something more than either of those things, such as a global rise in sea levels like the global warming alarmists predict.
The only “flood” that I know of prophesied for the end days is this one (and it doesn’t sound like what he is talking about):
“15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed from its mouth.”
Excellent post!
bttt
I’m glad to see at least one other person on FR who hasn’t swallowed the “Rapture” nonsense!
A prophet who speaks for the Lord has to be 100% accurate. If he is not... well, I wouldn’t stand too close to him in a thunderstorm :>)
And... as far as I am concerned, there is no immunity. However, look what happened to the children who mocked Elijah. Fair warning... shebears abound :>)
He is a false prophet only if a prophecy does not come to pass..
Also if the prophet says true things but leads to people to worship false gods.
Hard to get anything definite from a disjointed ramble.
I noticed this picture on your blog, under the caption "Angels Protecting the Homeless". Is it your assertion that what look like wisps of smoke are photographic evidence of angels? How do you know it is not cigarette smoke, vehicle exhaust, or an artifact of the photographic process? Even if you were certain the photograph portrays spirits, how could you be certain they were not demonic rather than angelic?
You’re right..I forgot about the dead polar bears, (that is a great name for a band...The Dead Polar Bears...very modern) :: ) (my alien smiley)
Everything has everything to do with God. He controls all these weather events. They just don’t happen.
That’s right. And HE controls the floodgates.
I’m not good enough at graphic design, but I’d love to see a fake Coke ad showing polar bear cubs floating in the Arctic Ocean, desperately clinging to a half full 2-liter plastic Coke bottle.
If a FReeper fancies himself a prophet and posts his prophecies, can he be criticized as a false prophet or does his status as a FReeper somehow protect him?
I would think his status as a FReeper protects him against posters "making it personal", in the same way that Catholic FReeper Patrick Madrid is personally protected when Madrid's articles are posted and discussed.
You can always cite Deuteronomy 13 & 20 in the general sense, and leave it to the lurker to decide for themselves...
In Deuteronomy 13:1-5, Moses records the first of two tests to be applied to anyone who claims to be a prophet of God. The first test is a theological one. The second test is a practical one. In the first test, the prophet has managed to correctly foretell the future - and then proceeds to tell believers, in effect, that "since I'm right about the future, I must also be right about who God really is..."13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,A second test is recorded by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:20-22. The second test is the easier one to administer. In this second test, the prophet has proved himself doctrinally correct who God is (i.e. passed the first test, above), but now has to prove his accuracy in proclaiming the future...and he has to be correct 100% of the time....
13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.In other words, a prophet who is truly hearing from God, will be correct in his/her prophecies fully 100% of the time, and will be in agreement with what prior prophets have announced re God's nature and character. Any less, and God assures us that "prophet" is false.
18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.The apostle John provides an update to Moses' first test - and a command to apply it - in 1 John 4:1-2. Doctrinally, the presumed prophet must worship the true Christ:
4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.
Hey, I guess that makes me a false prophet then, eh???
But Mary's the queen of heaven...Ya see, we're all prophets...
Knowing a little bit of scripture clears up a lot of nonsense...
Particularly if he does so in the article at the top of the thread rather than in the comments ...
He has already "made it personal", and should not be allowed to take refuge behind the rules against "making it personal".
Anyone who does not wish to be personally the subject of discussion should refrain from making himself personally the subject of discussion.
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