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To: LifeComesFirst
There’s nothing that would stick in court, or in public opinion, unless people choose who to believe based on whether they are Muslim or Christian.

So, in a he said, she said scenario, given that Islam is not a monolith but a religion with different practitioners, some extreme ( and yes, honor killings have occurred), some moderate, and some even downright progressive, who do we believe ?

Is the testimony of a 17 year old girl now considered invalid because she's sill a minor ? (BTW, there are many cases where girls as young as 14 are considered of marriageable age in Islamic countries ).

Where is Solomon when you need him ?
11 posted on 09/20/2009 5:12:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

There are only a few types of people who tolerate or promote the filth of Islam, the ignorant, sneaks, cheats and liars!

Islam is a military and quasi-political movement that camouflages itself as a religion. However, as with Dictatorships, Fascism and Communism or other such command and control systems, a social tool is used to stealthily control the populace. Americans are deliberately misled regarding this extremist movement disguised as a religion; should be banned on its face due to the primary tenets of hate and violation of codified laws applied to any individual/group behavior which declares and promotes violence, advocates unlawful activity among members and conducts business activities in violation of Civil, Human and Constitutional Rights.

Think of the Koran and Surras as a Middle Eastern version of “art of war.” There is “no social redeeming value” in either Islam, Koran or supporting documents!

Quote: Manuel II Palaiologos as saying: “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only bad and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

Those that are offened by this quote, have suspended their disbelief and are blind to the facts of life!

Further, she is in America, not an Islamic State, we do not enslave, sell or indenture 17 year olds against their freewill.


25 posted on 09/20/2009 5:33:49 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: SeekAndFind

In florida the age where a judge can say a child knows truth from lie and can distinguish the two is GENERALLY 13.

The judge will listen.

That said, let us be realistic. How many kooky pastors have we seen in this life? The judge is RIGHT not to trust anyone.

If she has 10 months to go before adulthood and there is no pending petition for emancipation then, if this pastor is serious, the parties need to help her set up an independent adult life. Set her up for school etc.


31 posted on 09/20/2009 6:13:03 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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