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To: Salvation
"As I said on other threads, I really do believe that Cardinal O'Malley knew Kennedy has received the Sacrament of the Anointing of the Sick and/or the Sacrament of Reconciliation -- we don't know that yet."

Goodness, there is JUST NO CONVINCING you that THIS has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with anything!

I've done my best to explain that ANY BAPTIZED CATHOLIC has a right to a Funeral Mass.

THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE.

The issue is the MUTILATION of the OFFICIAL FUNERAL LITURGY of the Church into a Kennedy Praise Fest and Democrat Party Talking-Points Symposium.

THAT'S THE ISSUE!

What is it about this that you just don't get?!

70 posted on 09/03/2009 9:05:19 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: TaxachusettsMan; Salvation
I've done my best to explain that ANY BAPTIZED CATHOLIC has a right to a Funeral Mass.

You are incorrect. You are confusing a Mass intention with a Funeral Mass.

From: http://deacbench.blogspot.com/2009/08/who-can-have-catholic-funeral.html

First, we must distinguish between offering a funeral Mass and celebrating a Mass whose intention is the eternal repose of a particular soul.

Since the latter is basically the private intention of the priest, albeit offered at the request of a particular person, and since there are practically no limitations as to whom we may pray for, almost any intention can be admitted. In cases that might cause scandal, especially if the person were denied a funeral Mass, it would not be prudent to make this intention public.

A funeral Mass on the other hand is basically a public act in which the Church intercedes for the deceased by name. A funeral Mass is one which uses the formulas found in the Roman Missal and the ritual for funerals. Some of these formulas may be used even if the deceased's body is not present.

Because of its public nature the Church's public intercession for a departed soul is more limited. A funeral Mass can be celebrated for most Catholics, but there are some specific cases in which canon law requires the denial of a funeral Mass.

Canons 1184-1185 say:

"Canon 1184 §1. Unless they gave some signs of repentance before death, the following must be deprived of ecclesiastical funerals:

1/ notorious apostates, heretics, and schismatics;

2/ those who chose the cremation of their bodies for reasons contrary to Christian faith;

3/ other manifest sinners who cannot be granted ecclesiastical funerals without public scandal of the faithful.

"§2. If any doubt occurs, the local ordinary is to be consulted, and his judgment must be followed.

"Canon 1185. Any funeral Mass must also be denied a person who is excluded from ecclesiastical funerals."

82 posted on 09/03/2009 10:01:21 AM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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