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Some non-canonical reflections on Kennedy's funeral (from Canon lawyer Ed Peters)
In the Light of the Law ^ | August 29, 2009 | Edward N. Peters, JD, JCD

Posted on 08/29/2009 4:27:32 PM PDT by NYer

The best that can be said about Ted Kennedy's funeral is, It could have been worse.

The celebrant, who strove to avoid masculine references to God in the liturgy (his verbal substitutions plainly clashing with the voices of others sticking to the approved texts), managed to forget the Mysterium Fidei during the Eucharistic Prayer, and later asked the congregation join him "in the words Our Father taught us."

The homily, which started well enough but steadily deteriorated, fell into various holes like (I'm quoting from memory): "the fruits of [Kennedy's] work in politics well-prepared him for God's kingdom" (Lord, I hope that's not what he really meant); and "Kennedy tied his faith to justice in the land" (good grief, justice? for millions of unborn babies in the land? was that the fruit of Teddy's faith?); and "we are confident that Kennedy has entered into the new dwelling of God" (maybe you are, Father).

The kid's intercessions came out as unabashed advertisements for Democratic Party policy goals.

Mercifully, all the major networks used a single video feed, and pretty obviously somebody got to somebody ahead of time and ordered "Don't, under any circumstances, show the Communion lines!", so we were spared wincing as this famous Catholic pro-abort or that approached the Eucharist.

And finally, whodathunkit?, President Obama's eulogy, though offered in violation of liturgical law, was actually the most palatable of what turned out to be three eulogies offered in violation of liturgical law, the first, Teddy Jr.'s, being maudlin, but mostly coherent if at times inappropriately partisan, while the second, that of Rep. Pat Kennedy, was embarrassingly pathetic and even included a joke about "that damn Kennedy" from the sanctuary. Sigh.

But what, in the end, most struck me, through whole ceremony, was how oblivious all the participants seemed to be (again, with the sole exception of Obama, who at least made one veiled reference to Kennedy's "public faults", and who was the only speaker to offer a prayer for Teddy's soul), how oblivious, I say, all the participants were to Ted Kennedy's disgraceful and chronic failings to defend the natural right to life (e.g., abortion, embryonic stem cell research), his refusal to protect the natural institution of marriage lately under such attack, and his bad example on a host of other issues of importance to Catholics and to the country. While a funeral is no place to rehearse, say, a man's role in the death of a beautiful young woman, such events and conduct should have, I think, instilled some restraint in the rush to proclaim the man's accomplishments. (As for those "accomplishments", well, if one is wedded to the idea of a gigantic state, then Teddy's accomplishments were admittedly many. But if you're not enamored of statism, one might say that the damage Teddy helped inflict on the nation was great.) Instead, one speaker after another gushed on and on about Ted.

The whole experience left me less hopeful about "dialogue" on life issues (not that I was very hopeful to begin with): we are, it seems clear, talking to people who have no sense of the enormity of the crimes being committed daily against the innocent. None. None.

So, as I said, the best one can say about Ted Kennedy's Catholic funeral (
to which, yes, he had a right, in accord with law) is, it could have been worse.

I suppose.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Worship
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1 posted on 08/29/2009 4:27:32 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Always interesting to read the view from a Canon lawyer.


2 posted on 08/29/2009 4:28:29 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
Anyone who is familiar with the history of my posts knows that I am a staunch defender of the Church, but so far this year the Church has badly botched its opportunities to defend itself by condoning the duplicity of pro-abortion “Catholics”.
3 posted on 08/29/2009 4:48:05 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: NYer

The one thing I had learned today going over all the threads about TK’s funeral was on the practice of giving a eulogy is a no-no, before I thought it was allowed after the communion rite. The time to do should have been done last night during the special private vigil service that took place at the JFK Library.


4 posted on 08/29/2009 4:49:38 PM PDT by Biggirl ("God Is Great, Beer Is Good, People Are Crazy"-Billy Currington :)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: NYer; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

5 posted on 08/29/2009 5:47:29 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: NYer
Obama, who at least made one veiled reference to Kennedy's "public faults", and who was the only speaker to offer a prayer for Teddy's soul

In Obama's depraved mind, Teddy's public fault was that he held back and never did show up for his volunteer shift at the partial birth abortion clinic.

6 posted on 08/29/2009 5:55:41 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Natural Law

I thought today’s event was particularly bad, if only because there was almost no opposition to it (except among a vocal few, like me and others here) and it was clear that Obama was very comfortable - because he knows he has won. When the “intercessions” were nothing but a stream of prayers asking God to grant the state control over our lives, I figured Obama must have done the terrorist fist-bump in his mind.


7 posted on 08/29/2009 7:18:14 PM PDT by livius
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To: NYer

As a non-Catholic who has watched many ‘Protestant’ churches prostrate themselves before political correctness, might I give some small comfort in pointing out that the vast majority of people - including non-believers - aren’t fooled by a “CINO” any more than they are a PINO.

Still, I’m sure it grieves many here to see what was done today. I can offer condolences, but very little that will cheer you. I’m sure CINOs and PINOs don’t have a clue what pain they cause believers.


8 posted on 08/29/2009 7:34:44 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: NYer
Not only did the Notre Dame fiasco not wake up the US hierarchy, it actually appears to have accelerated the decay. The tumor appears to have metastasized. As if seeing Obama being decorated on the campus of Notre Dame wasn't bad enough, he's now standing in the sanctuary of a Catholic Church and eulogizing an abortion facilitator.

Am I alone in seeing Obama's preaching from a Catholic sanctuary as a metaphor for the total abandonment of the US Catholic Church by its shepherds? How exactly does a man who favors partial birth abortion get to preach from a Catholic sanctuary, even as the bishop of the diocese sits and listens?

We've progressed (or should I say regressed) from conferring an honor on him to giving him access to a Catholic pulpit.

I'm starting to get really, really sick of these Judases!

9 posted on 08/29/2009 7:44:40 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Natural Law

“Anyone who is familiar with the history of my posts knows that I am a staunch defender of the Church, but so far this year the Church has badly botched its opportunities to defend itself by condoning the duplicity of pro-abortion “Catholics”.”

I am at my wits end with what is happening. In one moment I’m in shock at what is happening inside the Church. In another I’m wondering about the future and finding myself exasperated and thinking indeed, end times are near.


10 posted on 08/29/2009 7:45:49 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (...I only vote for conservatives...all Republicans are not conservatives...)
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To: NYer

Good information, especially for those concerned about Teddy having had a Catholic funeral.


11 posted on 08/29/2009 8:13:11 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: NYer

What you see since the post Vatican 2/ “Novus Ordo” “Rite” is not Catholic. You are watching full-blown apostacy. It actually matters little if these null rites have more sacrilege heaped in. until we consider the “little ones”. God withdrew the validity of these rites the instant they were enforced. He foresaw such depravity, otherwise the price of penance would have been too high for those who sought late a redemption from the despicable schema.


12 posted on 08/29/2009 8:18:38 PM PDT by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: NYer
From that link in the article:

Now, any man with a 100% rating from NARAL (to highlight just the tip of the iceberg of Teddy's decades-long campaign against natural rights) has, to put it mildly, the burden of proof in seeking a Catholic funeral (okay, technically, his executors have the burden of proof, but you see the point) in that notorious pro-aborts seem to be "manifest sinners who cannot be granted ecclesiastical funerals without public scandal of the faithful."

Unless, that is, "they gave some sign of repentance before death." And there is at least some evidence that Ted Kennedy did just that.

13 posted on 08/29/2009 8:30:26 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Natural Law
We have no idea if Senator Kennedy had a deathbed re-conversion. We cannot judge.

Beginning Catholic: The Anointing of the Sick: Comfort and Healing [Ecumenical]

14 posted on 08/29/2009 8:32:53 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

“Unless, that is, “they gave some sign of repentance before death.” And there is at least some evidence that Ted Kennedy did just that.”

Where is this evidence?


15 posted on 08/29/2009 8:42:17 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (...I only vote for conservatives...all Republicans are not conservatives...)
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To: marshmallow
Obama wasn't preaching from the sanctuary, it was a eulogy, which is not limited to being offered by believers.

The eulogies are usually offered after Communion, though, in my opinion, they shouldn't be done until after the Final Blessing. Maybe that's what Mr. Peters was talking about a violation of liturgical law, though after Communion is the only time I've seem them done in the last few years.

16 posted on 08/29/2009 8:45:08 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Salvation
"We have no idea if Senator Kennedy had a deathbed re-conversion."

We have learned that he frequently told Chappaquiddick jokes and that he and Sen. Dodd shared a waitress sandwich. Had he wished to communicate his "re-conversion" to the little people he had the media access and pull to do so.

17 posted on 08/29/2009 9:00:07 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: NYer
Rep. Pat Kennedy, was embarrassingly pathetic and even included a joke about "that damn Kennedy" from the sanctuary.

Perhaps unintentionally more correct than he knows.

18 posted on 08/30/2009 12:58:43 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: NYer

http://concordpastor.blogspot.com/2009/08/on-eulogies-remembrances-and-catholic.html

“”From the General Instruction of the Roman Missal

At the Funeral Mass there should, as a rule, be a short homily, but never a eulogy of any kind.
(GIRM, no. 382)

From the Order of Christian Funerals:

• From the Introduction:

A brief homily based on the readings is always given after the gospel reading at the funeral liturgy and may also be given after the readings at the vigil (wake) service; but there is never to be a eulogy. Attentive to the grief of those present, the homilist should dwell on God’s compassionate love and on the paschal mystery of the Lord, as proclaimed in the Scripture readings. The homilist should also help the members of the assembly to understand that the mystery of God’s love and the mystery of Jesus’ victorious death and resurrection were present in the life and death of the deceased and that these mysteries are active in our own lives as well. Through the homily members of the family and community should receive consolation and strength to face the death of one of their members with a hope nourished by the saving Word of God...
(Order of Christian Funerals, no. 27)

• At the Vigil (wake) Service, after the Concluding Prayer:
A member or a friend of the family may speak in rembrance of the deceased.
(Order of Christian Funerals no. 80)

• At the Funeral Mass, at the time for the Final Commendation:

Following the Prayer after Communion, the priest goes to a place near the casket. The assisting ministers carry the censer and holy water if these are to be used.

A member or a friend of the family may speak in remembrance of the deceased before the final commendation begins.
(Order of Christian Funerals, no. 170)

(ConcordPastor notes that the Order of Christian Funerals envisions the remarks of remembrance being delivered while the priest and ministers are standing at the casket.)””


19 posted on 08/30/2009 1:05:42 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: rbmillerjr; Salvation
“Unless, that is, “they gave some sign of repentance before death.” And there is at least some evidence that Ted Kennedy did just that.”

Where is this evidence?

BOSTON -- Sen. Edward M. Kennedy died in peace with his whole family praying around him, the clan's priest said Wednesday morning as the world mourned Massachusetts' senior senator, who died from brain cancer at the age of 77.

"It was a total surprise to me to see another world he was involved in -- the spiritual world," said Rev. Patrick Tarrant of Our Lady of Victory Church.

Tarrant, who was called to Kennedy's bedside late Tuesday as the senator was dying, said it was clear that Kennedy was ready for the journey that awaited him. He described the senator as "a man of quiet prayer" in his last hours.
read more

When a priest is called to the death bed of an individual, it is to administer the Sacrament of Healing, formerly known as the Last Rites.


20 posted on 08/30/2009 5:14:43 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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