[Cronos]

So, are those not in the "elect" totally depraved or utterly depraved? In either case they're damned to heck by God, right? Before they were born, they were damned and they were totally depraved.

I don't see any difference between the meanings of total and utter depravity. What would you characterise "utter" depravity as? In opposition to total depravity of course.

[Alex Murphy]

I don't see any difference between the meanings of total and utter depravity. What would you characterise "utter" depravity as? In opposition to total depravity of course.

"Utter depravity" wasn't my choice of phrase - it was yours. I already told you what "total depravity" means - did you read my post? Any answer to what you meant by "utter depravity" will have to come from you yourself.