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ESV-Kindle-Only Churches Growing Fast
TBNN ^ | 23 June, 2009 | Elder Eric

Posted on 06/26/2009 11:34:00 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: Alex Murphy

“Why the ESV?”

means: why does it even exist?

It’s unnecessary and wasteful.

The English speaking world DID NOT NEED IT, when Bible translation groups desperately need resources to finish translating God’s word in the thousands of distinct languages.

The existence of the ESV is vain and narcissistic, in my opinion.


21 posted on 06/26/2009 1:08:47 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I have tended to prefer the NASB, but I got into the ESV for the reason you cite-the Reformation Study Bible.

I was NASB for nearly 20 years. I switched to the NKJV only because I acquired a Reformation Study Bible about four years ago that was NKJV. At the time, it was going out of print and prices were good. I picked up a new leather-bound with thumb index version for less than $50, and liked it so much I bought a second-hand hardbound version for under $20 (it's only defect were the coffee stains on the page edges) so I wouldn't feel guilty in marking it up.

Just this month, I picked up a pocket-sized ESV (OT and NT)for my briefcase (Family Christian Bookstores, member-only table item for $5), and I have to admit that I really like the translation. I can see why it's popular.

22 posted on 06/26/2009 1:18:18 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: MichiganConservative
We strongly believe the ESV is the actual word of God, free from any error. All other versions have problems because they have been corrupted."

Hehe! Yep!

23 posted on 06/26/2009 1:24:40 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: ichabod1
In Matt 4:29, Jesus said, "I will make you fishers OF men" which became "I will make you fish for people". The pun completely lost for the sake of PC. If ESV restores some of that, as it promises, I could be for it.

I think you meant Matt. 4:19.

And he said to them, "Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men."
-- Matthew 4:19, ESV
FWIW the NIV, the NASB, the KJV, the NKJV all use the "fishers of men" language. It's when you get off the beaten path of translations that you start encountering the odd wordings. The "New International Readers Version" says "fishers of people". The "New Century Version" and "Today's New International Version" (as opposed to the NIV) say "fish for people."
24 posted on 06/26/2009 1:31:03 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: TheDon

satire


25 posted on 06/26/2009 1:37:28 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Alex Murphy
I have to admit that I really like the translation. I can see why it's popular.

I bought Max Mac Lean's reading of the entire Bible on MP3s which I enjoy, and the version I have is ESV. I confess I am liking the ESV more and more, and I seldom use my NASB anymore. I also bought the NIV Spirit of the Reformation Study Bible, even though it is almost identical to the ESV one. But it has the catechisms, Westminster Confession, etc. which are strangely missing from the ESV Reformation study Bible. I believe they were included in that NKJV one you have, but I could never run across one of those.

26 posted on 06/26/2009 1:39:08 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Sans-Culotte
....the catechisms, Westminster Confession, etc. which are strangely missing from the ESV Reformation study Bible. I believe they were included in that NKJV one you have, but I could never run across one of those.

Sad to say, the catechisms, WCF, etc are not present in the NKJV version of the Reformation Study Bible (maybe they're in the first version when it was called the New Geneva Study Bible?). Their inclusion is one of many good things I've read about the Spirit of the Reformation Study Bible.

27 posted on 06/26/2009 1:54:09 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: Alex Murphy

I got DH one for Christmas along with the $20 cover. The cover doesn’t double your reading area, but it does close, thus protecting the screen and making it easier to carry around, less “kindle-looking” to thieves. He loves it. I’m not sure if he’s tried downloading WORD documents to it, but it claims to accept those formats. He loves being able to carry his entire library (well, barring the gazillion books we already have) around with him.


28 posted on 06/26/2009 2:53:03 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: ichabod1

For poetry you use the KJV. I only use it now because it’s the only one that seems to be in large print, LOL.


29 posted on 06/26/2009 3:15:17 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Alex Murphy

You wrote:

“For me, the one big downside is that the Kindle is designed as a tablet. I would much prefer a folding device that has dual screens. Such a device folded shut would protect the screens when not in use, and when held open would be like reading a real book, i.e. I could see two pages at a time.”

That’s EXACTLY what I have been telling friends! That would be closest to an actual book in terms of feel and usage.

“The tablet design, i.e. a single unprotected screen is the chief turn-off of every e-book device IMO, but I realize it’s a tradeoff to keep costs down. Double the screens = double the price.”

True. I think in a few years the price will really come down. Think of VCRs and DVD players. I remember buying a VCR at Walmart in 1991 for...I think it was $134. Eight years later you could pick them up for less than $80. Now? What? $30? Of course the introduction of DVD players had a lot to do with that!


30 posted on 06/26/2009 4:05:34 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: ichabod1

I’ll have to look into that later this summer. It’s still way too expensive, but when the price drops $100 or $200 I’ll probably be buying.


31 posted on 06/26/2009 4:06:59 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks Alex. It had me going for a while...


32 posted on 06/26/2009 4:15:23 PM PDT by Ottofire (Philippians 1:21: For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.)
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To: fishtank; Alex Murphy
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33 posted on 06/26/2009 4:22:29 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (If Tehran offered an unclenched fist, Obama would be shaking a bloody hand and calling it good.)
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To: rom

I;ve been reading it and wrinkling my brow and thinking — this has to be a joke. Glad someone else recognized it.


34 posted on 06/26/2009 7:37:04 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: fishtank
satire

Hehe! Yep!

35 posted on 06/26/2009 9:54:29 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Alex Murphy
Is this a big issue or something, that it's common enough to be satirized? Heh. Related article here.
36 posted on 06/27/2009 1:22:11 AM PDT by raynearhood ("Naysayers for Jesus" - Charter Member)
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To: Alex Murphy

Now from those who think that the only good thing that the ESV for is to kindle a campfire...


37 posted on 07/01/2009 7:23:21 PM PDT by dangus
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