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Episcopal Priest; God Rejoices in Abortion
cmr ^ | matthew archbold

Posted on 06/24/2009 7:36:16 AM PDT by NYer

Episcopalian Priest, the Rev. Nina Churchman wrote a letter to Episcopal Life Online saying that women shouldn't have to ask for forgiveness for aborting a child. In fact, Rev. Churchman then goes one step further and says God rejoices in the woman's choice to abort. Here's the text in full:

After reading the 3 June article, "Pregnancy-loss Prayers", I found the text for Rachel's Tears online and was sickened to discover that the rite for abortion is couched wholly in terms of sin and transgression. The Episcopal Church, by resolution, has long held that women have the freedom to choose an abortion. It is not considered a sin. That this new rite begins with the words, "I seek God's forgiveness..." and includes "God rejoices that you have come seeking God's merciful forgiveness..." is contrary to the resolution. Women should be able to mourn the loss of an aborted fetus without having to confess anything. God, unlike what the liturgy states, also rejoices that women facing unplanned pregnancies have the freedom to carefully choose the best option - birth, adoption or abortion - for themselves and their families. No woman makes this decision lightly or frivolously. But each needs the non-judgmental and non-coercive support of her faith community to make the best decision for her circumstances.
The wording of this liturgy focuses solely on guilt and sin instead of the grief and healing that may accompany a very difficult but appropriate decision to terminate a pregnancy. If anyone is paying attention at the General Convention, this rite should not be approved.
Firstly, the question of sin being based on resolution seems strange to me. I wonder if before that resolution passed, did Churchman believe abortion was a sin. I'd bet not. What if at some future date the Episcopal Church reinstates abortion as a sin, do some people in Heaven then have to go to Hell?

But the point the Rev. Churchman is making that God rejoices in the choice of abortion is absurd, illogical and offensive. God creates each life. Breathes a soul into each of us. For the Rev. Churchman to say that God rejoices in the destruction of a baby is awful. Truly heartbreaking stuff from an alleged follower of Christ. And further, her point that God doesn't really differentiate between giving birth to the baby or killing the baby is shocking.

We've seen and heard many folks over the years saying they're "personally opposed" to abortion but don't believe it should be illegal for everyone. To me, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But Churchman is not only taking it one step further by saying she is perfectly fine with abortion, she then says that God isn't even "personally opposed" to killing one's baby.

I fear that Rev. Churchman confuses forgiveness and understanding for acceptance of sin. Though God may not reject outright those who have had an abortion - that should never be confused with rejoicing in the sin. God rejoices in repentance.

HT Opinionated Catholic

Pic from Midwest Conservative Journal


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abortion; ecusa; episcopal; moralabsolutes; ninachurchman; proaborts; prolife; religiousleft
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1 posted on 06/24/2009 7:36:17 AM PDT by NYer
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How much lower can one sink and still proclaim to serve God.


2 posted on 06/24/2009 7:37:25 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

I wonder how she’ll feel about that when God asks her about it on his day of judgment.


3 posted on 06/24/2009 7:39:35 AM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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To: NYer

If they need a parish fundraiser, why don’t they start selling A small fetus in an acrylic cube.


4 posted on 06/24/2009 7:41:39 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: NYer

The Episcopal Church has pretty much devolved into a branch of unitarianism: liberal activism in the guise of a religion for hippies who want to feel “spiritual” about something.


5 posted on 06/24/2009 7:43:04 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: NYer
A few more pieces like that and she'll be on the way to solving the world food shortage; just a “Modest Proposal”
6 posted on 06/24/2009 7:44:19 AM PDT by Tuketu
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To: NYer

I’m going to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she’s merely demented, rather than deliberately evil.


7 posted on 06/24/2009 7:46:51 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: NYer

She’s correct, if the “god” she is referring to is Moloch.


8 posted on 06/24/2009 7:47:00 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." --Orwell)
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To: NYer

To the Church in Thyatira

18 “To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:

These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze.

19 I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first.

20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.

21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling.

22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways.

23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.

24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets (I will not impose any other burden on you):

25 Only hold on to what you have until I come.

26 To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations—

27 ‘He will rule them with an iron scepter; he will dash them to pieces like pottery’ — just as I have received authority from my Father.

28 I will also give him the morning star.

29 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.


9 posted on 06/24/2009 7:49:25 AM PDT by Ladysmith (The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M. Thatcher)
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10 posted on 06/24/2009 7:54:50 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ladysmith
In a related story:

CARDINAL SAYS CATHOLICS HUMBLED BY ANGLICANS' DECISION TO JOIN CHURCH
11 posted on 06/24/2009 7:54:58 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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In a related story:

CARDINAL SAYS CATHOLICS HUMBLED BY ANGLICANS' DECISION TO JOIN CHURCH
12 posted on 06/24/2009 7:55:09 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: NYer

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil

Isaiah 5:20


13 posted on 06/24/2009 7:55:25 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town
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To: bdeaner
Well, how about that. I just linked to that thread myself, going the other way.

Is a bit ironic, isn't it?

14 posted on 06/24/2009 8:03:43 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Haha. Ironic, yes.


15 posted on 06/24/2009 8:07:13 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Haha. Ironic, yes.


16 posted on 06/24/2009 8:07:21 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Haha. Ironic, yes.


17 posted on 06/24/2009 8:07:26 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: bdeaner

You can say that again! < g >


18 posted on 06/24/2009 8:16:39 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

The devil must take a great deal of satisfaction in mocking God by manipulating so-called ‘religious’ people into believing such a twisted profanity of what God is really all about.


19 posted on 06/24/2009 8:24:54 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Exactly.


20 posted on 06/24/2009 8:33:58 AM PDT by sthguard (The problem isn't Islamic terrorists; it's terroristic Islam!)
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