Posted on 06/22/2009 7:28:34 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
Yes, it was a Baptist Church until our pastor came. We kept it a Baptist Church and stayed in the local Baptist conference. We decided a few years ago that we could no longer call ourselves Baptists because people expected it to be a typical Baptist church, which it wasn’t. We simply changed the name to reflect that we are a Spirit-filled church and believe in the gifts, etc. We still have older Baptists in the congregation and we’re not wildly pentecostal.
We are under the umbrella of Elim since our pastors went there for training, but we’re independent of them. They don’t tell us what to do. But they’re there if our pastors need something. They go there for conferences, etc.
The leader of Elim is not our pastor. You guys have really got that messed up. He is an estate planner. Some of us go to him for help. He doesn’t channel our money to Elim or anywhere else. We’re lucky and blessed to have a Christian estate planner and health care advisor right here. he was an estate planner long before he became our pastor. You don’t seem to understand that. I won’t mention any names because they are used against us here. Sorry.
To make it clearer, OUR pastor is the estate planner, not the head of Elim. Get it?
***Yes, it was a Baptist Church until our pastor came. We kept it a Baptist Church and stayed in the local Baptist conference. We decided a few years ago that we could no longer call ourselves Baptists because people expected it to be a typical Baptist church, which it wasn’t. We simply changed the name to reflect that we are a Spirit-filled church and believe in the gifts, etc. We still have older Baptists in the congregation and we’re not wildly pentecostal.***
Does that mean that your theology is mobile?
***We are under the umbrella of Elim since our pastors went there for training, but we’re independent of them. They don’t tell us what to do. But they’re there if our pastors need something. They go there for conferences, etc.***
Not sure what this means. Can you elaborate?
***The leader of Elim is not our pastor. You guys have really got that messed up.***
We are unacquainted with the different hierarchies of different entities. We have the hierarchy of the Church which is fairly straightforward. I don’t understand this connection to Elim if you are Elim and yet not.
***Some of us go to him for help. ***
I’m not getting the whole setup here. Can you elaborate?
Elim is where our pastors took their training. Elim has no control over our church. We’re an independent body. Elim is there if our pastors need help with anything but they have no control over our body there.
I’m not elaborating any further. I’ve told you what you need to know.
***I’m not elaborating any further. I’ve told you what you need to know.***
What you’ve told us is that your pastor, trained by the Elim cult, takes your money for some investment scheme.
Nice. The Church doesn’t engage in that sort of behaviour.
You are such a liar. This is no investment scheme. He is an estate planner and has been for years,a Godly man that I’ve known for over 25 years. He invests my money conservatively in places like American Funds. All legitimate. My, what a nasty person you are. Your church has cheated people out of their salvation. Money is nothing.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
He lies about my pastor in every post he makes to me. He loves to taunt me about the fact that I have trusted this precious man of God with my retirement funds. He’s an estate planner, not a charlatan. Mark IS a liar when he keeps insisting my pastor is a crook.
Don’t use the word “lie.” It is inflammatory. If the other poster’s remark is false, misleading, incorrect, wrong, uninformed then say so. None of those terms “make it personal.”
***You are such a liar.***
Nice.
***This is no investment scheme. He is an estate planner and has been for years,a Godly man that I’ve known for over 25 years. He invests my money conservatively in places like American Funds. All legitimate.***
So was Bernard Madoff.
***My, what a nasty person you are.***
Have I ever offered such an opinion about anyone here on FR no matter how much I disagreed with them?
***Your church has cheated people out of their salvation. ***
Prove it.
***Money is nothing.***
And your chicks are free...
I posted before noticing your exchange above. Apologies.
That's what Elim HQ instructs them to say.
***Elim has no control over our church. We’re an independent body. ***
As we previously suspected. In the Catholic Church, we prefer Christ to Elim, if truth be told.
And I most certainly prefer Elim and our church to Catholicism, by a long shot.
S Y!
I want nothing to do with you any longer. You used to be a reasonable opponent. Now you are just bitter and angry. Out darned spot!
***You used to be a reasonable opponent. ***
Funny; I don’t remember you ever saying such nice things in the past. Is my memory faulty?
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