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To: Pmary65; Daniel Gregg; Langel; D Rider
“ In attempting an accurate chronology of these days (Pesach) it must always be remembered that the Passover was sacrificed between the evenings of the 14th and the 15th of Nisan ; that is, before the close of the 14th and the beginning of the 15th. The Paschal Supper, however took place on the 15th itself (that is according to Jewish reckoning – the day beginning as the first stars became visible).” [End Quote]

[Genesis 1:3-5] 3 And God said, Let there be light (OWR): and there was light (OWR). 4 And God saw the light (OWR), that it was good: and God divided the light (OWR) from the darkness (CHOSHEK). 5 And God called the light (OWR) Day (YOWM), and the darkness (CHOSHEK) he called Night (LAYIL). And the evening and the morning were the first day (YOWM). God divided light (OWR) from darkness (CHOSHEK). The light (OWR) was called day (YOWM). The darkness (CHOSHEK) was called night (LAYIL).

You've touched on something here that is not too clear to some folks and I would like to offer my thoughts. "Beyn ha Arbayim".....Between the evenings. As you can see by the above scripture evening and morning are part of the day (YOWM); verse 5. Evening is not part of the night.....at least to Moses and the Hebrews it wasn't. Of course to us in the 21st century evening is now part of the night as it was also part of the night time to the King James translators.

"Beyn ha Arbayim". This was the term used to designate when the Passover was to be killed. Here are the Biblical definitions for the Hebrew.

Beyn: (sometimes in the plural masculine or feminine); properly, the constructive form of an otherwise unused noun from 'biyn' ; a distinction; but used only as a prep, between (repeated before each noun, often with other particles); also as a conjunction, either...or:--among, asunder, at, between (-twixt...and), + from (the widest), X in, out of, whether (it be...or), within. ha: simply means "the". Arbayim: from '`arab' ; dusk:--+ day, even(-ing, tide), night.

Between the Evenings/Beyn ha Arbayim. Arbayim is a dual word designated by the "ayim" on the tail end and means more than one. Ereb is the singular and the first time this word appears in scripture is [Genesis 1:5] "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening (singular) and the morning were the first day." As discussed earlier.....evening and morning were part of the daylight portion of the daily cycle. Morning was from sunrise to high noon and noon itself was the first evening. The second evening was sunset but the entire time from noon to sunset was called "Evening".....or as the KJV translators said...."Even".. The reason God started the daily cycle with darkness was because that's what appeared first.....darkness (verse 2).

Morning refers to the part of the day when the light is growing and evening refers to the part of the day when the light is receding. So, God designates a complete day as, from sunrise to sunset. Day and night together form the 24 hour period we now (also the KJV translators) call a completed day.

1. King James [Exodus 12:6] "And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening." (Translators using the singular here have caused much confusion).

2. Young's Literal Translation [Exodus 12:6] "'And it hath become a charge to you, until the fourteenth day of this month, and the whole assembly of the company of Israel have slaughtered it between the evenings;" (Between noon and sunset)

3. Hebrew Tanakh [Exodus 12:6] " wəhāyâ lāḵem ləmišəmereṯ ‘aḏ ’arəbā‘â ‘āśār ywōm l^a ḥōḏeš hazzeh wəšāḥăṭû ’ōṯwō kōl qəhal ‘ăḏaṯ-yiśərā’ēl bên hā‘arəbāyim:"

Above is the Hebrew....of course, expressed in English script to see and understand.

Young's is a good translation in that they faithfully attempt to translate literally. Sometimes because of syntax and idioms it is difficult to understand but they really do make an honest attempt.....as you can see.

Let's go ahead and list the other scriptures in which you find "Beyn ha Arbayim.....Between the Evenings".

[Exodus 16:12] "I have heard the murmurings of the sons of Israel; speak unto them, saying, Between the evenings ye eat flesh, and in the morning ye are satisfied with bread, and ye have known that I am Jehovah your God."

[Exodus 29:39] "the one lamb thou dost prepare in the morning, and the second lamb thou dost prepare between the evenings;

"[Exodus 29:41] " And the second lamb thou dost prepare between the evenings; according to the present of the morning, and according to its libation, thou dost prepare for it, for sweet fragrance, a fire-offering, to Jehovah:"

[Exodus 30:8] "and in Aaron's causing the lamps to go up between the evenings, he doth perfume it; a continual perfume before Jehovah to your generations."

[Leviticus 23:5] "in the first month, on the fourteenth of the month, between the evenings, is the passover to Jehovah;"

[Numbers 9:3] "in the fourteenth day of this month between the evenings ye prepare it in its appointed season; according to all its statutes, and according to all its ordinances ye prepare it."

[Numbers 9:5] "and they prepare the passover in the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, between the evenings, in the wilderness of Sinai; according to all that Jehovah hath commanded Moses, so have the sons of Israel done."

[Numbers 9:11] "in the second month, on the fourteenth day, between the evenings they prepare it; with unleavened and bitter things they eat it;"

[Numbers 28:4] "the one lamb thou preparest in the morning, and the second lamb thou preparest between the evenings;

[Numbers 28:8] "'And the second lamb thou dost prepare between the evenings; as the present of the morning, and as its libation thou preparest -- a fire-offering, a sweet fragrance to Jehovah."

Now.....between the evenings would be at 3:00 P.M. or thereabouts. This was when the evening sacrifice took place and most folks think nowadays that means it occurred at night time. Here are some scriptures that will indicate when the "Evening" sacrifice actually happened: [Acts 3:1][Acts 10:3][Acts 10:30]. Here are scriptures that show when Our Lord's sacrifice took place: Matthew 27:45-46][Mark 15:33-34][Luke 23:44]. The Hebrews began counting their hours at sunrise....so the ninth hour would be 3:00 P.M.

The proof verse that explains what evening really means is [Deuteronomy 16:6] " But at the place which the LORD thy God shall choose to place his name in, there thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even, at the going down of the sun, at the season that thou camest forth out of Egypt."

At the first evening (High Noon) the sun is directly overhead. As it progresses to the second evening (Sunset) what does the sun do? It begins to go down, gets lower in the sky....and finally about six hours later it sets.....goes below the horizon. Do you see how we need to know how the Hebrews thought about things before we can understand thoroughly what the scriptures are really saying?

As you read the New Testament and reflect on the crucifixion you'll now know why Our Lord had to die......between the evenings........3:00 P.M. on the 14th of the first month [Leviticus 23:5].

39 posted on 07/14/2009 6:41:30 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618

“As you read the New Testament and reflect on the crucifixion you’ll now know why Our Lord had to die......between the evenings........3:00 P.M. on the 14th of the first month [Leviticus 23:5].”

In reference to your statement of chronology; did Jesus and the disciples eat ‘unleavened bread’ at the last supper setting the night before the crucifixion?


40 posted on 07/15/2009 4:08:36 PM PDT by Pmary65 (one of the Sabbaths)
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To: Diego1618; et al

That’s right on target Diego with “between the settings”, and if you look up the hour of prayer, the incense, and 9th hour passages you’ll find another proof of it -— also the business with Elijah.

Not to spoil your beautiful post, however one problem needs correting:

KJV Deuteronomy 16:6 But at the place which the LORD thy God shall choose to place his name in, there thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even [ba’erev], at the
going down of the sun, at the season that thou camest forth out of Egypt.

This verse actually refers to Nisan 15 when they had an additional festival offering called “Passover”. The Passover and Exodus where two events, the Passover at midnight Nisan 15, and then they stayed in doors till morning. Then they went out during the day part of Nisan 15. They assembled in Rameses, and then as the sun set, they actually cross out of Egypt in the night at the end of Nisan 15. In the morning of Nisan 16 they baked their cakes. So they had a 24 hour march from dawn on Nisan 15 through the night of Nisan 16. This is well explained in my book. In any case the next verses show this to be the case:

KJV Deuteronomy 16:7 And thou shalt roast and eat it in the place which the LORD thy God shall choose: and thou shalt turn in the morning, and go unto thy tents. 8 Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: and on the seventh day shall be a solemn assembly to the LORD thy God: thou shalt do no
work therein.

The Hebrew is “boil” in 16:7, not “roast”. And boiling was not permitted for the 14th offering. Also notice that “six days” remain in the morning. That’s because it was toward sunset on Nisan 15 when this festival offering was offered. Finally, the instruction to return in the morning, is because the night at the end of Nisan 15 is the night of watches for the Exodus.


68 posted on 07/21/2009 12:05:52 PM PDT by Daniel Gregg
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