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Decrimininalizing Infanticide (in Texas)
CMR ^ | May 5, 2009 | matthew archbold

Posted on 05/06/2009 10:21:12 AM PDT by NYer

A Catholic state legislator in Texas has introduced shocking new legislation that would effectively reduce infanticide to a fineable offense for the first 12 months of a baby's life. The bill states that if a mother kills her own child within the child's first 12 months of life due to past partum depression, the murder would be downgraded and punishable by relatively short jail stay and/or a fine.

The bill, according to the House Committee Report, would

amend the Penal Code relating to the punishment stage of a trial in which a defendant is guilty of causing the death of a child; the defendant may raise the issue of impairment under certain conditions. If the defendant proves the issue in the affirmative by a preponderance of the evidence, the offense would be punishable as a state jail felony...A state jail felony is punishable by confinement in a state jail for any term of not more than two years or less than 180 days, or, in addition to confinement, a fine not to exceed $10,000.

So killing a baby in Texas could be punishable by a fine not to exceed $10,000? All the mother has to do is show signs of post-partum depression as the reason for the murder.

Not to belittle post-partum depression which I've seen can have terrible effects on women and families but this bill, should it become law, would have disastrous consequences for children.

Here's the text of the bill which is online here:
(e) At the punishment stage of a trial in which a defendant has been found guilty of causing the death of a child to whom the defendant gave birth within the 12-month period preceding the child's death, the defendant may raise the issue as to whether the defendant caused the child's death because the defendant's judgment was impaired as a result of the effects of giving birth or the effects of lactation following the birth. If the defendant proves the issue in the affirmative by a preponderance of the evidence, the offense is a state jail felony.

That takes infanticide out of the realm of murder and into a felony punishable at a lesser punishment of relatively short jail time and a fine.

Who introduced such a bill? Blogger Cassy Fiano writes:
Of course, leave it to a rabid pro-abortionist like Jessica Ferrar to see otherwise. She’s a Texas state representative, recently honored by Planned Parenthood and the proud owner of a 100% NARAL approval rating. She’s currently trying to force through a bill that would make Catholic hospitals be required to dispense the morning-after pill. Her latest bright idea? To decriminalize infanticide. Introducing Texas HB 3318, the first of its kind in the entire country, known as “the infanticide bill”...

This bill was passed by the Texas State Criminal Jurisprudence Committee 7 to 1 on April 28th. It’s currently on the way to the Calendars Committee.

Farrar, who introduced the legislation, writes about the bill here.

This bill must be defeated in Texas because its success will only be copied in other states. Below are the phone numbers of the members of the Calendar Committee, according to Fiano.

Brian McCall-Chair: 512-463-0594
Eddie Lucio-Vice Chair: 512-463-0606
Norma Chavez: 512-463-0622
Garnett Coleman: 512-463-0524
Byron Cook: 512-463-0730
Brandon Creighton: 512-463-0726
Charlie Geren: 512-463-0610
Jim Keffer: 512-463-0656
Lois Kolkhorst: 512-463-0600
Edmund Kuempel: 512-463-0602
Jim McReynolds: 512-463-0490
Alan Ritter: 512-463-0706
Burt Solomons: 512-463-0478


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; infanticide; legislature; moralabsolutes; prolife; tx
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1 posted on 05/06/2009 10:21:13 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 05/06/2009 10:22:03 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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3 posted on 05/06/2009 10:23:01 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Horrible as such legislation is, it is consistent with Roe v Wade.

In fact why set the limit at 12 months, shouldn’t parents be able to murder their children at any time? /s


4 posted on 05/06/2009 10:27:59 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: NYer

Rome. We are Rome.


5 posted on 05/06/2009 10:29:59 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: NYer

Jessica Ferrar
Is she Catholic? What does her bishop have to say?


6 posted on 05/06/2009 10:30:40 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: NYer
That bill has as much chance to pass as a snowball has surviving rush hour in Dallas in August
7 posted on 05/06/2009 10:31:39 AM PDT by txroadkill (Tax Day Tea Parties 4/15/09 - - The day we won one for the Gipper.)
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8 posted on 05/06/2009 10:31:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer

She’s only a Catholic in her mind, not her heart.

I wish these “Catholic” politicians would quit hiding behind that title. They are no more Catholic that 0bama.


9 posted on 05/06/2009 10:53:26 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: al_c

that = than


10 posted on 05/06/2009 10:53:41 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: NYer

While I get smacked around on here for this view, I will restate it here. This all comes back to contraception. The Church was correct in its prophesy that artificial contraception would be a slippery slope and is gravely immoral.

In these last few decades, the chain of events is undeniable. People,slowly at first, but then with a newfound vigor, dismissed the churches teaching on contraception (ALL denominations prohibited artificial birth control prior to the 1930 Lambreth decision) very quickly after, all denominations, except the Catholic church, deemed it a matter between the couple and God, reversing a long standing moral absolute.

What followed, quite quickly was the sexual revolution. Remove consequence and responsibility from sex, it becomes a recreational act instead of life giving love. Worse yet, a failure of contraception meant that you had sex without the intent to get pregnant, so now what? Your only option used to be adoption, or a risky, backwoods abortion. Most children went up for adoption.

As we learned to abuse sex with contraception, a totally predictable, but unintended consequence happened; we became narcissitic. It became about me me me instead of the golden rule. We did what we wanted, with whom we wanted, when we wanted. If you wanted sex, you had it. Problem was, when it came to having the child if contraception failed, we decided it was wrong to give it up. We didn’t want to raise the child, but we didn’t want anyone else to raise it either. After all, it was our body, our choice, right? Hence 30 years after the decision that artificial birth control was ok, the sexual revolution came about. A short few narcissitic years later, Roe V Wade changed the landscape of this country forever.

There were many predictions made about what would happen if we allowed contraception in Humane Vitae. People scoffed at abortion on demand being legal at the time. They also scoffed at euthanasia, selective abortion due to disablity, cloning, infanticide, and the like. How far we have come on the list in such a short time. Anyone who doubts that artificial contraception started this ball rolling would do well to read these predictions and see.

How long off can killing off the elderly because they are a drain on society? How about forcing abortions on women who are carrying “expensively ill babies” or “drains on society” like autistic children, mentally challenged folks etc? Children like Trig Palin would not be allowed to be born? What about one child rules like China;all others are forced to be aborted?

We have begun down a slippery slope. Our abuse of the gift that God gave us, sex, our only chance to actually participate in the creation of a miracle through a sacred act,has been completely defiled in our society, and become depraved. With it, our eyes have been slammed shut to the evils of artificial contraception thinking we could control the beast, with predictable results.

You cannot expect to hold a snake close to you, and not get bit, have the poison spread, and infect the whole body.


11 posted on 05/06/2009 10:57:56 AM PDT by wombtotomb ( ITS NOT ABOUT RIGHT VERSUS LEFT, ITS ABOUT RIGHT VERSES WRONG!)
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To: NYer

Maybe these same legislators could allow mothers and future mothers to establish withholding accounts with the state tax office, by which they could make monthly contributions toward fines for planned, future acts of infanticide. Sort of murder on the installment plan. Win-win all around; the state gets lots of tax revenue, the chicks get advance absolution for murder.

But at $10,000 per baby, I’ll bet a lot of adoption scam attorneys are going to have to reduce their prices.


12 posted on 05/06/2009 11:00:22 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: NYer

When abortion was proposed as the answer for possible birth defects, I would argue that the parents should wait until the baby was born to verify the defect, then kill the baby. I always got a horrified look in response as if once the baby was born it would then be unthinkable to kill it. Recently, that approach is not always effective as more and more people accept infanticide.

In fact one woman argued that until a child can use language, they are not fully human and should live only at their parents pleasure. To carry her argument to the next level I proposed that teenagers are not really human until they are out of school and self supporting. She agreed that that may be true.

Come Lord Jesus, come.


13 posted on 05/06/2009 11:06:24 AM PDT by Klondike
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To: kalee
....."What does her bishop have to say?".....

Since when has that mattered a whit? If Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, Biden, and others can claim to be Catholic, where is the litmus test? Bishops should do more than talk, or just shut up. It has become a farce.

Only believers, believe, for the rest, its a game. The music has stopped and no one is removing chairs.

14 posted on 05/06/2009 11:13:28 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Klondike

slippery slope is getting slipperier. It is like a very small snowball that starts at the top of a mountain slowly, then picking up steam and growing at the same time. See my post a few above.

I do however, recommend you start talking to these folks about elderly euthanaisia instead of infanticide/teenagericide. They will be more clearly effected by hearing that the elderly should die because they are a drain on society since that is the age group they are going to be in soon.


15 posted on 05/06/2009 11:16:35 AM PDT by wombtotomb ( ITS NOT ABOUT RIGHT VERSUS LEFT, ITS ABOUT RIGHT VERSES WRONG!)
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To: wombtotomb

“They will be more clearly effected by hearing that the elderly should die because they are a drain on society since that is the age group they are going to be in soon.”

They don’t think that way. they have an eternal “It won’t happen to me” mentality. To themselves, they are as young as when they were skipping around naked in their twenties.

The part that stinks is that they’re still mentally and emotionally in their twenties. Not thinking like grown adults because throughout their life their every stage has been celebrated. Society adjsuts itself to their lifestyles. Gay marriage is ‘hip’ so naturally therefore it is a good thing.

They promote euthenasia because they see the ‘old’ as taking money they have a right to and clogging their vacation spots. They see children as an inconvenience becuase chlidren depend on them for love they are apparantly unable to give.

I sometimes think that’s why some girls have had kids out of weldock, to recreate the scenario where they had to cater to the feelings of their parents and believe the child will do the same for them, which creates difficulty because children are not supposed to nurture their parents.

That’s why things are so warped now, parents are still taking from their parents and children. One side they demand their parents get out of the way for them and they want their kids to work and work and work while they turn the planet into their own little playground bit by bit. Gay marriage is their latest cause along with global warming.

Infanticide is simply a later form of abortion where if the baby isn’t what they wanted it to be, they kill it instead of giving it up for adoption.


16 posted on 05/06/2009 11:33:48 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: wombtotomb
While I get smacked around on here for this view, I will restate it here. This all comes back to contraception. The Church was correct in its prophesy that artificial contraception would be a slippery slope and is gravely immoral.

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Not by me, since I happen to agree with you.

17 posted on 05/06/2009 11:34:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: chuckles

I would expect Catholic bishops in TX to be conservative, Episcopalian bishops in TX are very conservative and pretty vocal.


18 posted on 05/06/2009 11:34:36 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: wombtotomb
You'll never get smacked around by me.

You make perfect sense. Reading Pope John Paul's Theology of the Body brings it all home.

Good post, and God Bless!

19 posted on 05/06/2009 11:46:10 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: NYer
reduce infanticide to a fineable offense for the first 12 months of a baby's life

WHAT?!!!!!!!

20 posted on 05/06/2009 12:00:04 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (...Mohammedanism...the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog...)
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