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Top Army chaplain raises Jewish ire with call for prayer during Passover.
The Baptist Standard ^ | 4/6/09 | Bob Allen

Posted on 04/08/2009 8:26:55 AM PDT by wmfights

WASHINGTON (ABP) -- The U.S. Army Chief of Chaplains is being criticized for a proclamation calling for prayer and fasting on April 8, which coincides with the first night of Passover, a high holy day on the Jewish calendar celebrated by a traditional feast called the Seder.

Maj. Gen. Douglas Carver, a Southern Baptist, issued a proclamation March 2 urging Army chaplains to pray and fast April 8 during a 120-day "stand down" period beginning Feb. 15 to focus on suicide-prevention awareness among soldiers.

"As spiritual leaders we are called to be a people of prayer," Carver explained in Internet newsletter article. "One initiative that was proposed is that we employ the power of collective prayer more consistently in our efforts to combat suicide. I have issued a call to all members of our Corps to join with me on 8 April in leading the Army Family in a special day of prayer and fasting for the preservation, protection and peace of our Army. I have directed our Center for Spiritual Leadership at the U.S. Army Chaplain Center and School to provide resources to support you in your prayer effort."

(Excerpt) Read more at baptiststandard.com ...


TOPICS: Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: chaplain; churchandstate; passover; prayerfortroops
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1 posted on 04/08/2009 8:26:55 AM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

This Jew sees no issue here.


2 posted on 04/08/2009 8:31:45 AM PDT by Jewbacca
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To: wmfights

We need to pass a law making it a felony to be offended.


3 posted on 04/08/2009 8:32:34 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Jewbacca

What on earth is this about ?


4 posted on 04/08/2009 8:32:44 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Our Army has many Baptists, very few Jews.
5 posted on 04/08/2009 8:34:50 AM PDT by Godwin1 (Cthol)
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To: wmfights

I’m Jewish. I’m not insulted or offended.


6 posted on 04/08/2009 8:35:04 AM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Jewbacca
This Jew sees no issue here.

I can't see why any Jew would be offended. I suspect the guy behind the "outrage" is just using his faith as a cover because his true motive would not be acceptable.

7 posted on 04/08/2009 8:40:41 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: P-Marlowe
We need to pass a law making it a felony to be offended.

Amen

8 posted on 04/08/2009 8:41:42 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It's a guess, but my guess is a secular Jew is offended by a request for prayer and fasting (which, by the way, is a reflection of our Judeo/Christian heritage and a continuation of the practice among faithful Jews and the Jew who founded our faith). It is also a tenant of the Muslim faith.

I'm thinking the offense is not so much what all were supposed to fast and pray for, but rather the fact that (a) a Southern Baptist requested it, (b) disbelief that such acts can have a positive effect, and (c) a pissy, nit-picky liberal background that objects to ANYTHING proposed by whackos who still believe in G-D and expect the rest of the world to fall in line.

Just a guess.

9 posted on 04/08/2009 8:42:01 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: wmfights

Christians cannot pray on Passover? Since when is Passover a Jewish-only holy day?


10 posted on 04/08/2009 8:42:01 AM PDT by earlJam
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I don’t know.

Apparently, some of my less secure tribesmen think it is a bad thing for Baptists to have observances that coincide with the Passover.

Me, I don’t get it. I think it’s false flag stuff to sow discontent and hatred by-and-between Christians and Jews.


11 posted on 04/08/2009 8:42:18 AM PDT by Jewbacca
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

I would guess its an over reaction. The Seder is a time of special meals and Kosher wine; not fasting, as I understand it.


12 posted on 04/08/2009 8:44:13 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: wmfights
Investigative reporter Jason Leopold quoted one Jewish member of the armed forces who spoke anonymously for fear of retribution calling the proclamation "an insult to all Jews" displaying "unconscionable arrogance" by the Army Chief of Chaplains."

There's your problem right there, Leopold is a lefty liar that assured us all that Karl Rove was being indicted.

13 posted on 04/08/2009 8:44:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: freespirited
I’m Jewish. I’m not insulted or offended.

I think the guy behind this is using his faith as a means to deflect criticism. I think the real goal is to make the armed services void of any religious presence.

14 posted on 04/08/2009 8:44:48 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Jewbacca

Nice artwork, newbie.


15 posted on 04/08/2009 8:45:11 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: earlJam
“Christians cannot pray on Passover?” Tell that to the Jew we follow. He'd be stunned to hear it. Tell that to the first Pope, he'd look thunderstruck and wonder if Jesus was just playing with him and he'd really died and gone to hell.

Get real, folks. Prayer, fasting and service to the Lord is not particular to any monotheistic faith. If you're secular — call it meditation and cleansing. Call it what you like, but get with the program of supporting those who are weak and subject to self-harm.

16 posted on 04/08/2009 8:46:26 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: earlJam
Since when is Passover a Jewish-only holy day?

Since atheists claim to speak for all Jews.
17 posted on 04/08/2009 8:46:31 AM PDT by Jewbacca
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

It’s a time of giving thanks for the mercy of God. It’s a time for renewal of life and the respect of the life that is taken to sustain us all. It’s a time for celebrating and loving each other, followed (for Christians) by a time of prayer and fasting for the sin of the world that couldn’t see Truth when It was staring back at them. It’s a time to reflect on the Love of God and draw closer to Him.


18 posted on 04/08/2009 8:49:30 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: earlJam
Christians cannot pray on Passover? Since when is Passover a Jewish-only holy day?

I really doubt observant Jews would see it that way. God could have forced the Pharaoh to release the Jews at anytime. However, God didn't do that, instead God hardened the Pharaoh's heart and brought numerous plagues down on Egypt so that the entire world would know who is the great I AM.

19 posted on 04/08/2009 8:49:47 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: DJ MacWoW
There's your problem right there, Leopold is a lefty liar that assured us all that Karl Rove was being indicted.

Good point!

20 posted on 04/08/2009 8:51:28 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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