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Stimulus to ban religious worship
WorldNetDaily ^ | February 06, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/07/2009 11:13:55 AM PST by TruthHound

'This isn't like a convenient oversight, this is intentional'

President Obama's proposed economic stimulus plan makes a deliberate – and unconstitutional – attempt to censor religious speech and worship on school campuses across the nation, according to a lawyer who argued related cases before the U.S. Supreme Court 20 years ago and won them all.

"This isn't like a convenient oversight. This is intentional. This legislation pokes its finger in the eyes of people who hold religious beliefs," Jay Sekulow, chief of the American Center for Law and Justice, told WND today.

His was the organization that decades ago argued on behalf of speech freedom on school campuses, winning repeatedly at the U.S. Supreme Court. Since then, the 2001 Good News Club v. Milford Central School District decision was added, clarifying that restricting religious speech within the context of public shared-use facilities is unconstitutional.

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Idiot libs couldn't resist throwing God under the bus in the "stimulus" sh!t sandwich. Bon Appetít!
1 posted on 02/07/2009 11:13:55 AM PST by TruthHound
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Check the article close. It links back to FR.


2 posted on 02/07/2009 11:17:26 AM PST by Lorica
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“This language is so vague, it’s not clear if students can even pray in a dorm room renovated with this funding since that is a form of ‘religious worship.’ If this provision remains in the bill, it will have a chilling effect on students of faith in America,” he said.


Normally, I would say this is a little bit of a stretch but knowing our libs, it is a sad situation that it is not a stretch. This also as some elements of self promotion but that is ok by me......................


3 posted on 02/07/2009 11:18:51 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: TruthHound

Wonder if they can trace who put this idiotic provision in a jobs bill.


4 posted on 02/07/2009 11:20:40 AM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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The problem in the proposed stimulus bill comes from a provision that states: “PROHIBITED USES OF FUNDS. - No funds awarded under this section may be used for - (C) modernization, renovation, or repair of facilities - (i) used for sectarian instruction, religious worship, or a school or department of divinity; or (ii) in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission.”


Ok, the meat of the issue. You be the judge.............


5 posted on 02/07/2009 11:21:12 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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Ok, now the thoughts flow. I am ok with it if liberalism and global warming are redefined as religions. Then government funds couldn't go there and the libs would have to pay for their own positions instead of using my money.
6 posted on 02/07/2009 11:23:58 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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Will this provision also shut down Obama worship in journalism schools?


7 posted on 02/07/2009 11:29:45 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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I hope my religion WICCAN SATANISTS for christ will still be able to get our new restrooms we were promised.
8 posted on 02/07/2009 11:31:35 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Shiite Muslim named Bob.)
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Will this provision also shut down Obama worship in journalism schools?

No. Because 0bama worship is a cult, not a religion.

9 posted on 02/07/2009 11:31:37 AM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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That's an interesting idea. Though I am certain that such measures would be camouflaged. Or if completely absurd items are in the bill that they were inserted by reps who would be safe from the electorate in the event of a backlash.

If it isn't possible to see who initiated certain items into legislation it certainly should be.

Likewise, if GOP reps know who the individuals are they should call them on it and make it clear to Americans who is doing it.

The Dems are on a path to destroy our country with debt, deception and divisiveness.

10 posted on 02/07/2009 11:46:33 AM PST by incredulous joe (Cold - It's the NEW hot!)
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“Idiot libs couldn’t resist throwing God under the bus in the “stimulus” sh!t sandwich.”

I know that there are Americans who are absolutely convinced that God is a right winger and in need of our government’s support, but most religious people on this planet, indeed in this country, believe otherwise. This article is more than a little over the top. If Sekulow’s crowd is right, they can always find some dog vomit Mohammedan to represent in a suit over foot baths at state schools. They’ll lose...thank God! In any event, it is positively NOT the government’s job to subsidize religion. That’s bad for the government and worse for the religion.


11 posted on 02/07/2009 1:59:21 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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12 posted on 02/07/2009 2:06:51 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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13 posted on 02/07/2009 2:12:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I bet there’s an exemption in there for foot baths.


14 posted on 02/07/2009 2:15:01 PM PST by ducdriver (99% of liberals give the other 1% a bad name.)
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It’s in WorldNutDaily — the world champion of stretches, so yeah, I’d call it a stretch.


15 posted on 02/07/2009 2:15:29 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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Chuckle.


16 posted on 02/07/2009 2:21:39 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Kolokotronis
It's about gobmint funding of shared use facilities, not support for any religion. Let's say some large church group wants to have a get together big enough where a stadium is the proper venue. I believe the provisions of this would prevent them from renting a stadium.

Whether a student living in a dorm could have a Bible study group meet in their room would be another instance where the affect of this provision could possibly kick in. If you think that's reaching, a “dorm floor father” was told that it was a violation of the separation of church & state for him to hold a Bible study in his dorm room.

17 posted on 02/07/2009 3:15:58 PM PST by GoLightly
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18 posted on 02/07/2009 3:26:06 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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This bill is so large that we don’t even know what is in it. And Congress is in such a hurry to pass this pork-fest that we aren’t going to know what’s in it until after it becomes law and we all have to live under it. It doesn’t surprise me that there would be an anti-religious provision in this bill. I also understand that the bill promotes universal health care. How are either one of things going to “stimulate” the economy? Of course, the whole idea of the government spending us out of a recession is absurd. In the end, it will only prolong the recession while it creates massive inflation.


19 posted on 02/07/2009 5:05:09 PM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: RegulatorCountry

Nope.


20 posted on 02/08/2009 7:09:10 AM PST by tob2 (Fox News Fan)
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