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A Christian Clergyman ‘Horrified’ by ‘Aggressively Christian’ Prayers?
FOX News Religion Correspondent ^ | January 18th, 2009 1:00 AM Eastern | Lauren Green

Posted on 01/19/2009 7:34:53 PM PST by pillut48

The inauguration invocation is the high profile event for a member of the clergy. It’s only been around since 1937, but it’s grounded in a rich, religious history that’s helped shaped this country.

At President-elect Barak Obama’s inauguration, Pastor Rick Warren will have the honors. Pastor Warren is the senior minister of Saddleback Church in Southern California and the uber-bestselling author of “The Purpose Driven Life.” Liberals objected to Warren because of his conservative views, specifically his support of Proposition 8, the ballot initiative that banned gay marriage in California.

What some see as a move to placate the gay and Lesbian community was the selection of the openly-gay Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson to say the prayer for the star-studded, kick-off of the inaugural week. The Inaugural Committee says it wasn’t about “righting” a perceived “wrong.” They said Bishop Robinson had been on their list for a while and they chose him for his message of inclusive civil rights.

But the reality is that selecting Gene Robinson for any inaugural event would make headlines. Bishop Robinson is the openly gay bishop whose elevation has caused a riff, or even schism, in the Episcopal Church and the wider Anglican Communion. Court battles over property are ongoing as conservative Episcopal congregations and dioceses leave over the issue of homosexuality and authority of the Bible.

My greatest shock, though, upon reading stories about Bishop Robinson’s inclusion was not that he’s an openly gay minister living with his partner. No. My biggest shock was that Robinson commented in The New York Times about past inaugural prayers. He said he was “horrified” at how “specifically and aggressively Christian they were.”

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You know, there's a big difference between a man of God, and a man of god (lower case). We all can see where the gay bishop falls--will Rick Warren stand against this PC attitude run amock tomorrow?
1 posted on 01/19/2009 7:34:53 PM PST by pillut48
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2 posted on 01/19/2009 7:37:08 PM PST by LibertyGrrrl (www.conservativepunk.com)
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To: pillut48

In answer to your question, I doubt it.


3 posted on 01/19/2009 7:37:31 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson is filling up the time slot for non-Christian content.

I suggested yesterday that they bring in a Shinto priest but nobody listened. Now they're stuck with this old gay guy who's going to embarrass everybody.

4 posted on 01/19/2009 7:38:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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Isn’t a Muslim speaking too?


5 posted on 01/19/2009 7:40:03 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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What in the world constitutes “aggressively” Christian in a prayer. Does the pastor threaten to hold everyone against their will and do the Muslim thang on them...”convert or die!!” It must be aggressive now to mention the J word in front of so many people. He prayed in the name of Jesus! Oh cover your ears!

This country is starting to make me ill.


6 posted on 01/19/2009 7:40:25 PM PST by Cherokee Conservative (We have enough youth, how about a fountain of SMART?)
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To: LibertyGrrrl

That is one terrifying cartoon.


7 posted on 01/19/2009 7:46:37 PM PST by Blogger
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To: pillut48

You know, it’s not nice to call a Christian clergyman an idiot, so I won’t. I’ll just say this: Gene Robinson could engage Trig Palin in a theological argument and lose.


8 posted on 01/19/2009 7:47:07 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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Rick Warren is just a different branch of this PC attitude. He’s a megachurch pop-Christologist.


9 posted on 01/19/2009 7:50:06 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Salvation
A Moslem is doing something, but that religion is based on an Orthodox field manual with instructions on how to convert pagans in Mecca to Christianity.

That was combined with some news about a local religious reformer named Mohammad, and then appended to some local history and color.

What the Moslem believes (in terms of sexual behavior) is probably not as far removed from Christian views as the views of the Episcopal guy.

Warren comes closest to being in the Christian tradition of course. The gal from the DOC still has the whiff of the Jim Jones doctrines about her and should not have been allowed on the stage.

The Catholics have been wise to stay away from this one.

11 posted on 01/19/2009 7:56:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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Isn’t a Muslim speaking too?

Hah-hah... I missed that one at first.
Nah, just a Unitarian/atheist who wants to be 'called by the name of Christ (Christian), to take away his reproach'...

12 posted on 01/19/2009 7:57:45 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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**The Catholics have been wise to stay away from this one. **

Absolutely. Especially if Obama does something with a pro-abortion signing tomorrow.


13 posted on 01/19/2009 7:58:42 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Cherokee Conservative

I could’ve said it longer, but I couldn’t have said it better. Wonderful way to express how most of us feel! Thanks!


14 posted on 01/19/2009 8:00:43 PM PST by awakened (Remember -- There are no dead atheists.)
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To: Cherokee Conservative

I just think we’re in the end times and this shouldn’t surprise us. satan is at work.


15 posted on 01/19/2009 8:22:49 PM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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Wow! Can you imagine if this crowd had been present, March 4,1805,when President Thomas Jefferson, offered a National Prayer for peace:
It began: “Almighty God Who has given us this good land for our heritage; We humbly beseech Thee that we may always prove ourselves a people mindful of Thy favor and glad to do Thy will. Bless our land .......”

And it ended with: “In time of prosperity fill our hearts with thankfulness, and in the day of trouble, suffer not our trust in Thee to fail; all of which we ask through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen.”


16 posted on 01/19/2009 8:29:15 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonyous)
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To: Salvation

I’m worried about what HolyO’s plans are for Israel and the unborn tomorrow! But I know God is in control so I’m going to leave the worrying to him! “Fret not...”

Praying to fret not!
(see my tagline!)


17 posted on 01/19/2009 8:29:33 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Tempest

Do not use potty language or references to potty language on the Religion Forum.


18 posted on 01/19/2009 8:29:33 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: LetMarch

I am soooooooo sick and tired of liberals warping and perverting the beliefs of our Founding Fathers, saying they didn’t actually believe in God per se (Lies!!) so that’s why they set up that ‘separation of church and state’ thing in that flawed Constitution thingie!!!

And I could just rip my hair out when people ‘quote’ that as being in the Constitution!! Arggghhhhhhhh!!!
>:-(


19 posted on 01/19/2009 8:32:15 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: RichInOC

It’s OK. Robinson isn’t a Christian. How do I know? He doesn’t follow the Word! Calling yourself something doesn’t transform you into it.


20 posted on 01/19/2009 8:41:00 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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