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Bishops will not skip debate on abortion and politics
www.catholicnewsagency.com ^ | Nov 9, 2008 | Catholic News Agency

Posted on 11/10/2008 8:19:20 AM PST by Publius804

Bishops will not skip debate on abortion and politics

What will really happen this week at the USCCB meeting

Baltimore, Nov 9, 2008 / 11:08 pm (CNA).- Since the election of Barack Obama as the next President of the United States, several Catholic commentators have speculated on how the original agenda of the annual Fall General Assembly of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) will change.

According to bishops involved in the organization of the three-day meeting, which starts this Monday, the agenda, including a public discussion of abortion and politics, is fully on track.

Speculation that the agenda might change came late last week when several prominent Catholic commentators argued that the bishops had "lost authority" by speaking out strongly against Catholics voting for pro-abortion politicians, like Sen. Barack Obama and other mostly Democratic candidates, who were elected to office last Tuesday.

On Friday, Religion News Service reported that the USCCB “has scuttled plans to discuss abortion and politics next week in Baltimore,” citing the bishops' spokeswoman, Sister Mary Ann Walsh. RNS also quoted Sister Walsh saying that the agenda had yet to be finalized.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; family; marriage; usccb

1 posted on 11/10/2008 8:19:20 AM PST by Publius804
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To: Publius804

Cardinal George of Chicago has just given his opening address.

It is a testimony to the bishops’ good manners that the place didn’t explode in guffaws.

Here is a Cardinal held hostage by one of his own priests and parishes - Father Pfleger and Saint Sabina’s - giving the entire National Conference of Bishops a challenge to be true leaders?

What a pathetic charade.


2 posted on 11/10/2008 8:30:53 AM PST by TaxachusettsMan
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To: Publius804

Funny, our racist, extremist, liberal archbishop down here from Atlanta is scared not to /afraid of not making/proud to make EVERY statement he can praising Obama and illegal immigrants.


3 posted on 11/10/2008 8:40:59 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Publius804
Moreover, according to the National Catholic Reporter's John Allen Jr., “some analysts, especially those of a more liberal bent, are spinning the election of Barak Obama as a ‘repudiation’ of what they see as an overly strident and partisan tone from the bishops, especially on abortion.

No, it wasn't a repudiation. It was the result of nearly four decades of mixed signals, timidity and fawning at politicians' feet from AmChurch. You reap what you sow. That won't be reversed with one month of intense anti-abortion rhetoric. The damage is by now systemic and deep-seated.

The correct response to the pro-Obama Catholic vote is not to throw in the towel and clam up. Quit the opposite. It's to roll up the sleeves and get to work to educate lapsed, indifferent and liberal Catholics.

4 posted on 11/10/2008 11:40:56 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

“quit”=quite


5 posted on 11/10/2008 11:42:09 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: Publius804
Pray for LIFE!

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6 posted on 11/10/2008 5:41:48 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

You are speaking of a man who is out there on the firing line despite the fact that he has cancer. Please apologize.


7 posted on 11/10/2008 5:42:35 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
Evidently you are not aware of all the bishops who came out to say that life was the PRIMARY issue in this election. Unfortunately too many CINOs did not listen.

Over 100 Bishops Have Spoken Out on Priority of Life Issues
Posted on October 28, 2008, 11:59 AM | Deal W. Hudson
The list of U. S. bishops who have spoken out on the priority of the life issues in this election is now over 100. The list now contains 70 individual bishops and three joint statements.
I would like to continue updating this list until the day of the election. I have tried to incorporate all the comments thus far. If I dd not get them all, I apologize. (For a few of the suggestions, I could not find a suitable link.)
Please continue using the comments section to let us know what bishop is not on this list who should be. This would include any bishop who has individually, or jointly, published a statement about this election pointing out the primacy of the life issues.
Thank you for your help.
1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver
2. Bishop James Conley, auxiliary of Denver
3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C.
4. Justin Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities
5. Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine
6. Edward Cardinal Egan of New York
7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo
8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh
9. Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs
10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio
11. Bishop Oscar Cantu, auxiliary of San Antonio
12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Centre
13. Bishop Edward Slattery of Tulsa
14. Bishop Kevin Farrell of Dallas
15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin
16. Sean Cardinal O'Malley of Boston
17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando
18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis
19. Francis Cardinal George of Chicago, President of the USCCB
20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker
21. Bishop Jerome Listecki of La Crosse
22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland
23. Bishop Ralph Nickless of Sioux City
24. Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco
25. Bishop Glen Provost of Lake Charles, LA
26. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn
27. Bishop Joseph F. Martino of Scranton
28. Archbishop Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura
30. Bishop Peter J. Jugis of Charlotte
31. Bishop Michael F. Burbidge of Raleigh
32. Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, KS
33. Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, MO
34. Bishop Robert C. Morlino of Madison, WS
35. Bishop Ronald
Gilmore of Dodge City, KS
36. Bishop Paul
Coakley of Salina, KS
37. Bishop Michael
Jackels of Wichita
38. Bishop Gerald M.
Barbarito of Palm Beach
39. Bishop Kevin W.
Vann of Fort Worth
40. Bishop Rene H. Gracida, retired, of Corpus Christi
41. Daniel Cardinal DiNardo of Houston
42. Bishop Paul S. Loverde of Arlington
43. Bishop Francis X. DiLorenzo of Richmond
44. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Center
45. Bishop Robert McManus of Worcester
46. Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Patterson
47. Bishop Robert Herrmann of St. Louis
48. Archbishop Edwin O'Brien of Baltimore
49. Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted of Phoenix
50. Bishop Thomas D. Doran of Rockford
51. Bishop Joseph A. Galante of Camden
52. Bishop Robert J. Baker of Birmingham
53. Archbishop Alexander J. Brunett of Seattle
54. Bishop J. Peter Sartain of Joliet
55. Bishop John M. Smith of Trenton
56. Bishop Earl Boyea of Lansing
57. Bishop Leonard R. Blair of Toledo
58. Bishop Frances J. Dewane of Venice
59. Bishop W. Frances Malooly of Wilmington
60. Bishop Robert Morlino of Madison
61. Bishop John Yanta , retired, of Amarillo
62. Bishop James V. Johnston of Springfield-Cape Girardeau
63. Archbishop John Vlazny of Portland
64. Bishop Blase J. Cupich of Rapid City
65. Bishop Lawrence Brandt of Greensburg
66. Bishop Dennis M. Schnurr of Cincinatti
67. Bishop Larry Silva of Honolulu
68. Bishop Paul Swain of Sioux Falls
69. Bishop Michael J. Sheehan of Santa Fe
70. Bishop Eusebius Beltran of Oklahoma City
71. Bishop Kevin C. Rhoades of Harrisburg
72-94. Joint Statement by the bishops of New York State (22 bishops)
95-111. Joint Statement by the bishops of Pennsylvania (16 bishops)
112-116. Joint Statement by the bishops of Kansas (4 bishops)
117-126. Joint Statement by the bishops of Florida (9 bishops)
Added by me
 
127. Bishop Tobin -- http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=30333 ^
 
128. Archbishop Wilton Gregory  georgiabulletin.org ...
 
 
130. Archbishop Elden Curtiss Omaha http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2123119/posts?page=1
 
131. Bishop Carlson's of Michigan pastoral letter in full, go to:
http://www.saginaw.org/images/election-statement_carlson_102...

 

8 posted on 11/10/2008 5:44:45 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Publius804
We can all contact our bishops and urge them to come out even more strongly agaist FOCA!

Bishops listed by Diocese

Bishops by Name

And the one I like best: Bishops listed by state

9 posted on 11/10/2008 6:17:17 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

On what firing line?

He slapped Pfleger on the wrist.

Pfleger is now back, louder than ever, a continuing scandal, contumaceously disobedient, and utterly defiant.

I am sorry Cardinal George has had cancer. If he cannot fulfill his episcopal responsibilities because of that, Canon 401 has a section 2 that anticipates that eventuality and provides for it.

I will not apologize for pointing out the truth.

And anyway, who the hell are you to instruct me to do so?


10 posted on 11/10/2008 11:43:22 PM PST by TaxachusettsMan
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To: Salvation

I am completely aware of the number of bishops who - to varying degrees - spoke out and saw this list elsewhere on FR.

I was commenting solely on Cardinal George’s apparent failure to exercise episcopal oversight in the case of Father Pfleger’s and Saint Sabina’s apparent embrace of a religion other than Roman Catholicism.

Listen to the audio of Pfleger’s “sermon” - while the rest of the Church was celebrating the Dedication of the Lateran Basilica and he was canonizing the Obama Family - and read Saint Sabina’s website.

See what conclusion you come to.


11 posted on 11/10/2008 11:49:24 PM PST by TaxachusettsMan
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