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To: ravenwolf

It has been my contention for a long time that Peter and the rest acted irrationally and impetuously in Acts 1. They had yet to receive the Holy Spirit, and so were acting on their own. Jesus told them to wait, but they didn’t. Jesus already had an apostle in mind with Paul, but Peter thought he HAD to do something.


3 posted on 09/20/2008 9:37:57 AM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: irishtenor

I disagree. Note what Paul writes in 1Cor 15:

3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5  And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

Jesus Christ appeared to the “twelve” after his resurrection. Who was this twelfth? Judas was already dead, and Paul is not one of the twelve for in verse 8 of this same chapter he says:

8  And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

If one believes that 1Cor 15:1-8 is inspired scripture, then it stands to reason that these “twelve” are also recognized by the Holy Spirit. Therefore it must be Mathias, the one that the 11 apostles appointed to take Judas’ place.

Something to consider.


4 posted on 09/20/2008 10:50:46 AM PDT by jnwest
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To: irishtenor

I will have to agree with irishtenor but thanks for the comment and I was just wondering about some of the churches having apostles that never witnesed the resurrection.


10 posted on 09/20/2008 2:57:10 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: irishtenor

It has been my contention for a long time that Peter and the rest acted irrationally


I disagree
The apostles did wait in jerusalem just like they were told to do, and what they were waiting for was pentecost, they had to choose some one to replace judas before pentecost so there would be 12 wittnesses, therefore they had to choose some one who had been a wittness to the resurection.Paul by his own words were the least of the apostles.

We have more from paul than any of the other apostles, because they were not destroyed, however the other apostles if they were in other places would have wrote to jeruslem i imagine and those letters would have a lot more chance of being destroyed.

I think peter knew just what he was doing when he said they must appoint another one to take judas,s place.

Just my thoughts.


20 posted on 11/13/2008 10:06:23 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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