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To: Patrick1
I consider Wesley more of a Methodist

But still an Arminian who believed God is sitting in Heaven wringing His hands hoping that some will choose Christ, but not daring to intervene.

Now I know that Arminians will deny that caricature, but the end result is the same.

7 posted on 08/21/2008 2:03:49 PM PDT by Gamecock (The truth of Christianity does not hinge on my personal experience.)
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To: Gamecock

Wesleyians don’t believe God is sitting back and waiting. But God is active making himself available to all.

If God has already chosen then why did Christ die for the world’s salvation? Seems a little bit of a waste of time.


10 posted on 08/21/2008 2:06:42 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Gamecock; Patrick1
But still an Arminian who believed God is sitting in Heaven wringing His hands hoping that some will choose Christ, but not daring to intervene.

Sounds familiar.... The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. (Luke 18:11)

And I think he was probably really glad he wasn't like one of those evil Arminians.....

Tell you what, FRiend -- a man who can talk as ugly as you can about a fellow Christian has no business posting self-righteous screeds about evangelism.

11 posted on 08/21/2008 2:09:06 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Gamecock
But still an Arminian who believed God is sitting in Heaven wringing His hands hoping that some will choose Christ, but not daring to intervene.

According to the Calvinists, God isn't wringing His hands over anything. It's all a done deal, and a large part of humanity will eventually join that great fry cook down below. There is no choice, they were born for that fate. Or isn't that so?

29 posted on 08/21/2008 4:06:35 PM PDT by xJones
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