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No 'Yahweh' in songs, prayers at Catholic Masses, Vatican rules (more detailed info)
CNS ^ | August 12, 2008 | Nancy Frazier O'Brien

Posted on 08/12/2008 1:40:53 PM PDT by NYer

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To: MeanWestTexan

We call Him, FATHER, because His Son is our Brother, Jesus, who is also God.


61 posted on 08/12/2008 3:13:26 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Petronski

Not to me.

Some Haredi might get pissed.


62 posted on 08/12/2008 3:13:34 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan ("Jesse Jackson was an important figure; paving the way for Osama bin Laden to appear" -- Dan Rather)
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To: MEGoody

No, it isn’t. Yahweh is a beautiful name for God. Hey, if it’s good enough for HIM, it’s good enough for me. PC is right.


63 posted on 08/12/2008 3:14:39 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: MeanWestTexan

“When the Messiah comes and rebuilds the Holy Temple, he will once again teach us how to pronounce G-d’s holy name”

They must call upon the name of the Lord Jesus now to be part of the Temple. If God wanted us to know the specific way to pronounce YHWH He would have done so, but what He does teach is that those who call upon the name of the Lord Jesus with a contrite heart and confessional type faith (Rm. 10:9, 10) “are washed, sanctified, and “justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God “(1 Cor 6:11).

And in His name we are to be baptized (Acts 2:38), and by faith in His name we are healed (Acts 3:16), “And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem” (Luke 24:47). Even though many “blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called” (James 2:7).

(Phil 2:10) “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;”

(1 Cor 1:2) “Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:”

To God be the glory.


64 posted on 08/12/2008 3:15:52 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Give your sins and life to Him who died your us and rose again. Jesus is Lord.)
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To: RonF

ME, TOO. It’s embarrassing to me to be practically the only one singing when I go to a funeral.LOL.


65 posted on 08/12/2008 3:16:24 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: netmilsmom

Good for you!


66 posted on 08/12/2008 3:17:07 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Ann Archy

That’s great.

I would still respect your father and not use the name He told you not to use outside the Temple, which is the issue at hand.

If you don’t want to listen to me, think about this:

If Orthodox Jews and the Roman Catholic Church can agree on a theological point, I’m thinking it’s pretty solid.


67 posted on 08/12/2008 3:17:26 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan ("Jesse Jackson was an important figure; paving the way for Osama bin Laden to appear" -- Dan Rather)
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To: MEGoody

Indeed it is.


68 posted on 08/12/2008 3:18:40 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Miss Didi

Yes, it is. The ‘new’ Methodist hymnal is nearly unrecognizable. I was asked to sing at a funeral when I came to the funeral (not before) and I looked through the hymnal and found very few songs I recognized. And I’ve been singing in churches and choirs since I was 11.


69 posted on 08/12/2008 3:20:55 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: NYer
Totally agree with the Vatican.

I have never felt comfortable singing song with the Tetragrammaton in them. There's just something so hubristic about it.
70 posted on 08/12/2008 3:21:33 PM PDT by Antoninus (McCain/Palin in 2008!)
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To: daniel1212

That’s great and all, but has nothing to do with the narrow issue we are discussing.


71 posted on 08/12/2008 3:22:03 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan ("Jesse Jackson was an important figure; paving the way for Osama bin Laden to appear" -- Dan Rather)
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To: Miss Didi

Good for you, Miss Didi.


72 posted on 08/12/2008 3:22:11 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Miss Didi

>>And I will continue to say “MEN” to be rebellious. ;)<<

HA!!!
You’re the best!!!


73 posted on 08/12/2008 3:23:12 PM PDT by netmilsmom (The Party of Darkness prefers to have the lights out. - Go Fierce 50!!!)
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To: Marysecretary
Hey, if it’s good enough for HIM,

It's a third-person form, roughly equivalent to "He is." Kind of an odd way to address someone.

74 posted on 08/12/2008 3:23:43 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Dan Middleton

We sing a song Yahweh and it’s beautiful, reverent, and anointed. Folks miss so much these days because of ‘religion.’


75 posted on 08/12/2008 3:23:56 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: MeanWestTexan

” common folk, using that name is getting “above one’s station” so to speak”

That makes complete sense to me. I’ve recently expressed doubts (to my family) about how people are using the name of God because of the Lord’s Prayer. I’m glad to see the Vatican take up this topic.


76 posted on 08/12/2008 3:24:12 PM PDT by Varda
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To: PGR88

Same here. My first thought when I saw the headline was, “Good. All the songs that use ‘Yahweh’ suck anyways.”


77 posted on 08/12/2008 3:25:19 PM PDT by sassbox (New Jersey politics - home for those who aren't competent enough to make it in the mafia.)
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To: maryz

I’ll be singing Yahweh til my voice goes dry. It’s beautiful and I bet God likes it, too.


78 posted on 08/12/2008 3:28:03 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: MeanWestTexan
uh....I am a practicing Catholic. Jesus TOLD us how to pray to the Father in His own words..."Our Father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy Name, They kingdon come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven....."

I'll go with what Jesus told us to do.

79 posted on 08/12/2008 3:28:10 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: trisham
No singing at all would be fine.

AMEN!!!

When we are forced to endure crappy songs sung crappily (and all 29 stanzas!), I am reminded of the offering of Cain, who tried to sacrifice produce when God requested an unblemished lamb. We are offering what WE want to offer, not something sacred.

Every mass a Children's Mass, oh brother!

80 posted on 08/12/2008 3:29:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I am voting for McCain because he is white.)
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